Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Villa hottentotta male
Posted by Elena Regina on 27-09-2025 19:32
#1
Lazio, 2025-IX, TBL 11 mm
Edited by Elena Regina on 20-10-2025 23:34
Posted by eklans on 05-10-2025 08:36
#2
At first glance it looks like a worn
V. hottentotta - which is the only
Villa GBIF shows for Italy.
But your fly's patagium is white - like in
V. modesta or
V. cingulata, both not in Italy?
Posted by eklans on 06-10-2025 08:43
#3
There are not enough black hairs on the sides of tergites 5 and 6 - excludes
V. modesta, so it's probably
V. cingulata (which should have yellow scales on sternite 2 instead of black ones)..
Posted by Elena Regina on 12-10-2025 12:16
#4
Ventral habitus:
Posted by eklans on 12-10-2025 17:02
#5
This Villa should have been gone to a coiffeur before the photoshooting!
I see some black scales on sternite 3 but more yellow ones, and generally it looks more like
V. hottentotta.
Posted by eklans on 13-10-2025 15:18
#6
Wing venation is ok, I think, here's a female from my own database of 2018.
EDIT: different aspects of a female 20221016
Edited by eklans on 15-10-2025 16:29
Posted by eklans on 13-10-2025 15:18
#7
and a male of 2019.
EDIT different aspects of a male 20180912
Edited by eklans on 15-10-2025 16:30
Posted by eklans on 13-10-2025 15:19
#8
The big difference is the white patagium of your fly.
Posted by WkarenBbrewW on 13-10-2025 22:38
#9
That’s a nice comparison shot, thanks for sharing it! The venation does look pretty consistent, I can see the resemblance clearly. Do you happen to have any side or dorsal photos of the male too? That might help narrow it down a bit further.
Posted by eklans on 15-10-2025 16:32
#10
I've changed the images in my posts of male and female
Villa hottentotta.