Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyiidae ♂

Posted by JC_Bartolucci on 25-05-2025 06:03
#1
Hello,

Is it possible to say something about this Anthomyiidae ♂ which looks like a Delia? By consulting this document I cannot find any corresponding hairiness for the hind tibiae.


www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos359/big/P5170114_modif.JPG
JC Bartolucci : France : Saint-Laurent-d'Aigouze : 30220 : 17/05/2025
Altitude : NR - Taille : 7 mm
Réf. : 359121

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos359/big/P5170116_modif.JPG
JC Bartolucci : France : Saint-Laurent-d'Aigouze : 30220 : 17/05/2025
Altitude : NR - Taille : 7 mm
Réf. : 359122

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos359/big/P5170117_modif.JPG
JC Bartolucci : France : Saint-Laurent-d'Aigouze : 30220 : 17/05/2025
Altitude : NR - Taille : 7 mm
Réf. : 359123

Thanks in advance

JC

Posted by JC_Bartolucci on 29-05-2025 08:41
#2
Impossible to determine the species or even the genus?

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 29-05-2025 14:13
#3
As you correctly wrote, pv row on t3 absent.

Posted by JC_Bartolucci on 29-05-2025 21:26
#4
Delia radicum ?

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-05-2025 12:06
#5
I know Anthomyiid better than average, less worse than necessary. Your fly has strong Delia"jizz".
However, to keep save my reputation I'd rather keep silence.
Sciomyzid, Muscid, Fanniid are wellcome...

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-05-2025 12:15
#6
For Anthomyiid there is only one expert in clear mind, still alive and with good knowledge, it is Verner Michelsen, the Dutch. Try to contact him.

Posted by eklans on 30-05-2025 12:50
#7
Verner Michelsen is in Kopenhagen: see
The Anthomyia pluvialis complex in Europe https://www.resea.../229692907

Posted by eklans on 30-05-2025 12:52
#8
This could help with Delia sp.
Acta Zoologica Academiae Scientiarum Hungaricae 49 (2), pp. 87–101, 2003
MALE AND FEMALE MORPHOLOGY OF SOME CENTRAL EUROPEAN DELIA (ANTHOMYIIDAE) PESTS
DARVAS, B. and A. SZAPPANOS

Posted by JC_Bartolucci on 30-05-2025 22:03
#9
I've just sent an email to Verner Michelsen with the photos and details of the specimen.
I'll share any feedback I receive from him here.
Thanks again for the suggestion!

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-05-2025 22:40
#10
Let us know Verner's opinion (if and when)