Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Identified as 'Sarcophaga sp.' by Liekele
Posted by valter on 01-03-2008 16:48
#1
Location: Portim?o > Algarve > Portugal
Date Photo Taken: February 29, 2008
Edited by valter on 07-03-2008 00:50
Posted by Tony Irwin on 01-03-2008 20:03
#2
Senotiania (Sarcophagidae) is my first reaction (but we need a second opinion)
Posted by Zeegers on 02-03-2008 11:08
#3
Colouration reminds me of Amobia, but I don't see the smal proclinate orbital setae....
Theo
Posted by valter on 02-03-2008 13:57
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Zeegers wrote:
Colouration reminds me of Amobia, but I don't see the smal proclinate orbital setae....
Theo
What's the smal proclinate orbital setae ???
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 02-03-2008 14:06
#5
see overviews... the answer is there :P
look for head and thoracic threads. ;)
Posted by Zeegers on 02-03-2008 18:10
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Valter,
Just to be sure: is this the only pic you have ?
Any other would help.
Theo
Posted by valter on 03-03-2008 10:26
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Zeegers wrote:
Valter,
Just to be sure: is this the only pic you have ?
Any other would help.
Theo
Yes, I only have this pic.
Note: It's a small fly with perhaps 7 or 8 mm.
Info: Senotiania sp. ? or Amobia sp. ? or just SARCOPHAGIDAE ?
Thanks.
Posted by Xespok on 03-03-2008 12:23
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To me it does not look like a Senotainia sp. The head shape and coloration is different to my knowledge in that genus. Amobia looks better, but really you should wait for Liekele.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 03-03-2008 16:19
#9
Forget my suggestion of
Senotania - it's much more like
Amobia, as Theo and Gabor have pointed out. (Not one of my better first reactions! ;))
Posted by Zeegers on 03-03-2008 21:56
#10
So we wait for Liekele
Theo
Posted by Liekele Sijstermans on 06-03-2008 23:36
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This is not Amobia:
Orbital bristles should be visible, but aren't.
The frontal bristles are descending lower than insertion of antennae, but should not.
The pictures show clearly strong parafacial bristles in lower, outer part. I do not know any miltogramminae with such bristles.
This is a Sarcophaga spec.
Liekele
Posted by Zeegers on 07-03-2008 09:02
#12
Right.
Now you mention it, a second ad bristle o tibia is actually present, but hardly visible. I got fooled.
Theo
Posted by Liekele Sijstermans on 09-03-2008 14:49
#13
Be carefull with ad bristles on tibia. Aberrations occur frequently in several genera in Miltogramminae.
Liekele
Posted by Zeegers on 09-03-2008 14:58
#14
I know. But had I seen the second bristle, I would have turned my eye to the parafacial bristles....
Theo