Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Oplisa atterima (John Sherkosky); SW Spain
Posted by Andre Burgers on 11-02-2025 17:29
#1
A small black fly on my balcony, hiding from the cold.
Minas de Riotinto, February 6, 2025.
Any idea?
¡Gracias!
Edited by Andre Burgers on 12-02-2025 17:02
Posted by Andre Burgers on 11-02-2025 17:30
#2
2nd photo
Posted by John Carr on 11-02-2025 18:13
#3
Muscidae?
Posted by Andre Burgers on 11-02-2025 18:30
#4
John Carr wrote:
Muscidae?
Yes, that could be. I will look into Muscidae and see what I can find.
Thanks again, John!
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-02-2025 21:07
#5
Muscidae?
I wish I knew...
Posted by Andre Burgers on 11-02-2025 21:31
#6
Thanks
Nikita! |t
Things are getting difficult. Interesting!
Posted by John Carr on 11-02-2025 23:31
#7
The anal vein appears incomplete and the hind tibia is weakly bristled compared to Anthomyiidae. The black color and small calypters have me thinking of the Azeliini. If it is in that tribe Nikita Vikhrev should recognize it. And he doesn't. The three strong anterior spines on the fore femur are found in some
Fannia. This is not a
Fannia.
Posted by Andre Burgers on 12-02-2025 07:52
#8
Thanks, John, for this clear information. |t
I'll study these characteristics and try to figure things out. It's going to be difficult, since you two experts haven't reached a conclusion.
¡Saludos!
André
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 12-02-2025 15:22
#9
Today morning I've got e-mail from John Sherkosky who present himself as "Calliphoridae and polleniidae expert as a hobby" Rather expert than hobby, because he gave me answer with which I quite agree:
His answer is:
Oplisa atterima, Rhinophoridae !!!
Posted by John Carr on 12-02-2025 15:35
#10
Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
Today morning I've got e-mail from John Sherkosky who present himself as "Calliphoridae and polleniidae expert as a hobby" Rather expert than hobby, because he gave me answer with which I quite agree:
His answer is: Oplisa atterima, Rhinophoridae !!!
I like that. I convinced myself the M vein looked incomplete because of a torn wing. It really is incomplete, as often happens in Rhinophoridae.
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 12-02-2025 15:43
#11
Looking at good photos I filled myself as a madman. What a pleasure to know correct answer!
Posted by Andre Burgers on 12-02-2025 17:01
#12
You guys are incredible!!!
Nikita, thank John Sherkosky for the ID of my fly. |t
One of the problems with this fly was its colour, almost pure black. Difficult to observe structures. But you did it!
Again, thanks to the three of you!
¡Saludos! :)