Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Eupeodes luniger or E. corllae?

Posted by Jogvan F on 09-12-2024 12:29
#1

Hi
I have a single specimen of this male species that I think is Eupeodes lapponicus. As this species is not reported from here (Faroe Islands) it would be great to get a second opinion. The only Eupeodes recorded here is E. corollae.

Thanks
Jógvan F

Edited by Jogvan F on 17-12-2024 21:56

Posted by Jogvan F on 09-12-2024 12:33
#2

Markings do not reach margin

Edited by Jogvan F on 09-12-2024 12:35

Posted by Jogvan F on 09-12-2024 12:36
#3

wing

Posted by Jogvan F on 09-12-2024 12:37
#4

ventral

Posted by Jogvan F on 09-12-2024 12:37
#5

head

Posted by Jogvan F on 09-12-2024 12:38
#6

alula

Posted by dipdip on 10-12-2024 10:09
#7

E. lapponicus's Vein R4+5 is strongly bent not only a little as in your picture.

Greetings from Switzerland

Edited by dipdip on 10-12-2024 20:50

Posted by Jogvan F on 12-12-2024 11:46
#8

Thanks "dipdip"
I was also thinking about that.
Any guess what this species might be. Which characters need to be highlighted?

Thanks
Jógvan F

Posted by Juergen Peters on 12-12-2024 17:37
#9

Jogvan F wrote:
Any guess what this species might be.

To my laic eyes it looks like a Eupeodes luniger male with these spots not reaching the tergite border.

Posted by Andrzej on 12-12-2024 19:23
#10

Hi Jogvan, maybe you should try the key available here: https://web.archi...art_18.pdf

Best,
Andrzej

Edited by Andrzej on 12-12-2024 19:24

Posted by Jogvan F on 16-12-2024 00:08
#11

Thanks for reply Juergen and Andrew
I have the book of van Veen 2004 but I need experience as I need with the Heleomyzidae, Andrew ;)

I agree with E. luniger. Not only with the spots not reaching the margin but also the postocular orbit. Gets norrow towards vertex as seen on the attached photo.
So if everybody are ok, this will be corrected to Eupeodes luniger (a new species for the Faroe Islands)

Thanks
Jógvan F

(I don't know what happened with the photo, but it is ok when you open it)

Edited by Jogvan F on 16-12-2024 00:10

Posted by Drolf on 16-12-2024 09:33
#12

Hi,

Did you verify that it's not E. corollae?
The genitalia seem large and the yellow spots don't always reach the margins of the tergites, especially in males.

Regards,
Florian

Posted by Jogvan F on 16-12-2024 10:14
#13

Hi Florian
Thanks for the information on the spots (they are not in the key)
The hairs on the scutellum are both yellow and black which also should lead to E. corollae.
I also attach photo of genitalia. They are large, but are they large enough

Jógvan F

Posted by Jogvan F on 16-12-2024 10:15
#14

Hoirs on scutellum