Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae
Posted by serenense7 on 27-10-2024 11:45
#1
Luc Bettinelli : France : Arc-et-Senans : 25610 : 20/10/2024
Altitude : 236 m - Taille : 8 mm ?????
Réf. : 350575
Luc Bettinelli : France : Arc-et-Senans : 25610 : 20/10/2024
Altitude : 236 m - Taille : 8 mm ?????
Réf. : 350580
Luc Bettinelli : France : Arc-et-Senans : 25610 : 20/10/2024
Altitude : 236 m - Taille : 8 mm ?????
Réf. : 350673
Hello, this male of Calliphoridae was not photographed from a very simple angle for determination, sorry.
If the general appearance and what we see of the curvature of M1 are reminiscent of a simple
Calliphora, the colors of the "beard" and the spiracle do not seem to correspond (we should see orange...). What do you think?
Thank you for yours answers
Luc
Posted by eklans on 28-10-2024 11:38
#2
Hello Luc, as far as I can see it could be a male
Bellardia sp. or
Onesia sp.
Posted by Zeegers on 28-10-2024 13:38
#3
Yes, looks like an Onesia, doesn't it ?
Theo
Edited by Zeegers on 28-10-2024 13:38
Posted by eklans on 28-10-2024 17:24
#4
Indeed, it does - I just wasn't sure about the 0+3 ia-bristles.
Posted by serenense7 on 29-10-2024 10:27
#5
Thank you for your answers. I have the impression that there are 1 + 2 ai, which I tried to render here by changing the contrast of the photo and marking the bristles that I imagine are concerned in red.
Luc Bettinelli : France : Arc-et-Senans : 25610 : 20/10/2024
Altitude : 236 m - Taille : 8 mm ?????
Réf. : 350790
On the insect.org forum, a proposal was made
"
Bellardia viarum male
1. femur 2 without a preapical seta. (Calliphora a is present)
2. 1+2 ia (Onesia 0+3)
2. discal setae on t4 visible in photo 2."
Edited by serenense7 on 29-10-2024 20:06
Posted by Zeegers on 30-10-2024 19:08
#6
Third antennal segment seems simply too long for Onesia. I find it very difficult to assess the humber of IA, in any case prae IAmis unstablemin Onesia.
Theo
Posted by serenense7 on 30-10-2024 23:08
#7
Thank you, we are making progress by formally eliminating
Onesia.
For the number of AI, is it more complicated than what I pointed out in red? Maybe on the number of AI before the suture? Does
Bellardia viarum seem like a good hypothesis to you?
Posted by Zeegers on 01-11-2024 09:20
#8
Well, between your first two red dots, there seems / might show a broken off bristle, which would be the first post IA out of 3 .....
So, I havent ruled out anything
Edited by Zeegers on 01-11-2024 09:20
Posted by serenense7 on 01-11-2024 18:48
#9
I see, thank you!
And are there other possible genus that would have a 1+3 AI formula?
Edited by serenense7 on 02-11-2024 10:32