Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Haematopota italica ? (2nd specimen) - north-western France
Posted by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:28
#1
an other specimen found also in a moor.
Spot on tergites 3 to 6.
First antennal segment long with a small constriction, black-grey.
Femora orange/ brown (exactly as
bigoti).
Is it ok for
italica ?
Edited by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:28
Posted by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:30
#2
lateral view
Posted by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:30
#3
zoom
Posted by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:31
#4
frons
Posted by BLecaplain on 09-09-2024 22:11
#5
I have a doubt with this one, could it be
gallica ? The first segment is not so long as
italica in direct comparaison with the other specimen in my other post. (And I found two specimens of
gallica in our pro collection, identified by M. Portillo, same area, North western France)
Edited by BLecaplain on 10-09-2024 17:04
Posted by Zeegers on 10-09-2024 19:44
#6
Gallica is just a synonym of italica, it is a "ghost species"
And yes, very nice female italica. In doubt, colouration of femora is a big clue (otherwise only found in bigoti, very different, and grandis)
Theo
Posted by BLecaplain on 10-09-2024 20:42
#7
Thanks Theo !
Where can I find the publication where
gallica and
italica are synonymized ? For my information and for actualisation of national liste.
BenoƮt
Posted by Zeegers on 11-09-2024 10:39
#8
As I recall, it was a publication by Wolfgang Schacht, but I cannot find it 1-2-3.
In any case, given as synonym by Portillo for Iberian peninsula.
Theo
Posted by Zeegers on 11-09-2024 10:45
#9
It was in an appendix, therefore difficult to find :(
https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ENT_0005_0483-0498.pdf
Posted by BLecaplain on 11-09-2024 12:19
#10
Thanks Theo