Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 25-08-2024 16:21
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Far East, 44.85N 131.7E? 15/05/2024
Ex pupa of Carabid Pterostichus orientalis

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 25-08-2024 16:22
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dorsal view

Posted by Zeegers on 26-08-2024 12:44
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Hi Nikita, this one is very interesting. Carabidae are very rare as hosts for Tachinidae, only found in Dexiini, Dufouriini and Blondeliini. It looks like the latter. Do you know whether the host was adult or larva ?
I need to work on this. Could very well be a spec.nov.

Theo

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 26-08-2024 13:02
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Hi Theo.
1. Thank you.
2. It was "ex pupa"

Posted by John Carr on 26-08-2024 16:24
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Some references on puparia:

Greene, C. T. 1922. An illustrated synopsis of the puparia of 100 muscoid flies (Diptera). Proceedings of the United States National Museum 60 (Art. 10) [= No. 2405]: 1–39 + 20 pls.

Ziegler, J. 1998. Die Morphologie der Puparien und der larvalen Cephalopharyngealskelette der Raupenfliegen (Diptera, Tachinidae) und ihre phylogenetische Bewertung. Studia dipterologica. Supplement 3: 244 pp.

I have only seen the first. A catalog will be needed to translate Greene's genera into modern genera.

Posted by Zeegers on 26-08-2024 19:34
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It is very confusing. The abdominal pattern is reminiscent of oriental Dexia-species, but the habitus is totally different.
As for the host: I think it is pretty difficult to recognize Pterostichus-species in larval state. So if this record is reliable, I think it is very likely it was an adult beetle.


Theo

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 26-08-2024 22:58
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Kirill Vladimirovich Makarov is a prominent specialist in the systematics and morphology of ground beetle larvae of the world fauna. His main area of research interests is the development of the methodological foundations of larval hetotaxy and the creation of a family system based on the characters of preimaginal stages.
https://carabidae.org/user/Kirill+Makarov
I asked him once again about this case.
1. No doubts that Pterostichus orientalis
2. No doubt that from pupa.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 26-08-2024 22:59
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Kirill's explanation:
I only had one pair of Pterostichus orientalis. The male died and a puparium appeared in the cage; the female is still alive and lays eggs by inertia. The substrate in the cage is coconut crumbs, I am very careful about its sterility (since I do not need "alien" larvae at all). Is the origin of the fly obvious?

Posted by Zeegers on 27-08-2024 11:38
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Thanks for checking with the source, Nikita. I will see if I can consult experts on the Oriental fauna. I'm pretty sure it is a Blondeliini, but there is no obvious match at generic level.


Theo

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 27-08-2024 22:28
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Theo, do you want specimen?

Posted by Zeegers on 28-08-2024 11:03
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It would be great to be able to study the specimen "live".
If you have options to send it by post, that would be excellent.
But please wait for one week, since I will be in Prague next week.


Theo