Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Small Heleomyzid: Tephrochlamys?
Posted by Juergen Peters on 23-02-2008 19:35
#1
Hello!
This one (only photo) had only 4 mm. Today in our garden (northwest Germany). Is it
Tephrochlamys? Thanks in advance!
Posted by Sundew on 24-02-2008 23:08
#2
Dear Juergen,
You have not got a reply yet, so I activate all my fresh Heleomyzid knowledge and tell you my guess: it could be
Heteromyza.
Tephrochlamys obviously does not have such dark antennae. Andrzej gave in thread
http://www.dipter...d_id=10831 some hints how to discriminate between
Tephrochlamys and
Heteromyza. So this is my opinion, given without warranty!
Cordially, Sundew
Edited by Sundew on 24-02-2008 23:08
Posted by Juergen Peters on 24-02-2008 23:36
#3
Hello, Sundew!
Sundew wrote:
Tephrochlamys[/i] obviously does not have such dark antennae. Andrzej gave in thread
http://www.dipter...d_id=10831 some hints how to discriminate between
Tephrochlamys and
Heteromyza.
Many thanks! But that thread leaves me a bit confused... :|. First Andrzej says, it's
Heteromyza. Then cebe tells, it should be
Tephrochlamys, which Andrzej seems to confirm, because it has black antennae... (??).
I also had
Heteromyza in the last weeks (determined by Andrzej), and those flies were generally bigger than this very small Heleomyzid and hat no blue colour, it was more grey (whatever that means...).
Posted by Sundew on 24-02-2008 23:46
#4
It seems to me that Andrzej is referring only to Ruth's question concerning the differences. Cebe's statement "it should be
Tephrochlamys" did not address the fly on the photo but the spelling of the name (Ruth had forgotten one h). Cebe also posted an assumed
Tephrochlamys (
http://www.dipter...d_id=11346) that turned out to be
Heteromyza as well.
Sundew
Edited by Sundew on 24-02-2008 23:52
Posted by Juergen Peters on 25-02-2008 01:05
#5
Hello, Sundew!
Sundew wrote:
concerning the differences. Cebe's statement "it should be Tephrochlamys" did not address the fly on the photo but the spelling of the name
Ah, thanks, now it is clear... ;)
Posted by Andrzej on 25-02-2008 12:13
#6
It was a species described on females by Strobl as T. rufiventris var. nigriventris from South Spain. This specimen is Tephrochlamys and very similar to this one :).
I am sure that a male conspecific to the female should be examined and verified :)
Andrzej