Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Micropezidae ??

Posted by javanerkelens on 19-02-2008 23:41
#1

Can anybody tel my more about this fly...
It was teaken last summer and it was about 4 mm.

Greatings Joke

Edited by javanerkelens on 19-02-2008 23:43

Posted by javanerkelens on 19-02-2008 23:44
#2

another

Posted by Kahis on 19-02-2008 23:49
#3

I'd say
#1 Calobata petronella
#2 Neria cibaria

Both Micropezidae.

Of course, if you are sure it's the same fly in both pictures, I may have to revise my opinion :)

Edited by Kahis on 19-02-2008 23:52

Posted by javanerkelens on 19-02-2008 23:57
#4

I realy thought they where the same :D :D

Thanks very much....I'm very happy now !!

Greatings Joke

Posted by Andre on 20-02-2008 01:22
#5

Isn't cibaria called Compsobata? And only ephippium called Neria? How's the nomenclature nowadays?
By the way: the first I agree, since the yellow 'shoulders' are clear to see. But I think it's too risky to name the second one.

Posted by Andrey Ozerov on 20-02-2008 09:37
#6

I agree with Dr. Kahis. First is Calobata petronella (L.), second - Neria cibaria (L.):)

Posted by Kahis on 20-02-2008 09:46
#7

No 'Dr.' please :)

Posted by Xespok on 20-02-2008 10:58
#8

You should change your name to Dr. Kahis :D

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 20-02-2008 14:27
#9

Here in Portugal those who have a degree are treatened as Dr. like me. :|
As Kahis I don't like this Dr. :)

Posted by javanerkelens on 20-02-2008 14:27
#10

Isn't cibaria called Compsobata? And only ephippium called Neria? How's the nomenclature nowadays?

In the Checklist of Diptera is standing:
Neria=Compsobata
cibaria=cothurnata and trivialis
commutata=nigricornis
ephippium
femoralis
(And that are the fly's of the Netherlands)

And the foto's where taken by my sister and she told me that it where differend fly's, taken on differend days on a field somewere in Amsterdam.

Anybody many thanks...Joke (also from my sister Alie) :D

Edited by javanerkelens on 20-02-2008 14:31

Posted by Kahis on 20-02-2008 17:58
#11

javanerkelens wrote:
In the Checklist of Diptera is standing:
commutata=nigricornis


This synonym is incorrect. N. nigricornis is a valid north boreal species.

Posted by javanerkelens on 20-02-2008 18:08
#12

Indeed, it was written after the name, but I did't see it at first.
commutata=nigricornis(Zetterstedt,1838): misident.sencu auct.


Joke :D

Edited by javanerkelens on 20-02-2008 18:34

Posted by Kahis on 20-02-2008 18:43
#13

See Andersson H. (1989) Taxonomic notes on Fennoscandian Micropezidae (Diptera). Notulae Entomologicae, 69, 153-162.

As far as I know, the status of the species have not changed after this paper.

Shouldn't Paul be happy when possible mistakes are corrected ;)