Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Hydrotaea for ID Belgium 2024-05-22
Posted by Tetrao on 22-05-2024 20:39
#1
Hi everyone !!!
I pictured this
Hydrotaea in my garden on 2024-05-22.
I could measure it on picture : 7,0mm
Is it possible to ID it up to the species ???
Thank you for reading and / or commenting or ID !!!
Have a good day,
Didier
Edited by Tetrao on 23-05-2024 12:19
Posted by John Carr on 22-05-2024 22:08
#2
Hydrotaea?
Posted by Tetrao on 23-05-2024 07:35
#3
Thank you very much, John !
I’ll look in this direction …
Have a good day today !!!
Didier
Posted by Iain MacGowan on 23-05-2024 10:32
#4
The pro- thoracic suture ( the obvious lateral crease on the anterior third of the thorax) is clearly evident in photo 1. So its definitely not Lonchaeidae. I would ah agree with Hydrotea
Posted by Tetrao on 23-05-2024 12:16
#5
Thank you Iain, I definitively agree with Hydrotea too !!!
I’m now searching for the ID to species, I’ve tried the Fonseca key, but I arrived at
H. nidicola Which is a British and German species but we haven’t it in Belgium nor in The Netherlands nor in France …
Have a good day today,
Didier
Posted by John Carr on 23-05-2024 14:42
#6
There are a few species with a long, shining frontal triangle.
Hydrotaea aenescens strikes me as the most likely.
Posted by Tetrao on 23-05-2024 18:38
#7
Thank you very much, John !!!
I’ll have a look for this species…
I’ve already seen that some specimen where pictured and / or collected in The Netherlands !!!
Have a good day,
Didier
Posted by Tetrao on 24-05-2024 13:46
#8
I'm back with new food ... I read a paper saying that there has been a problem !
1. Fonseca and Séguy didn't call
Hydrotaea aenescens as it is now, they both put this species in the Ophyra genus . So many specimen in Belgium before 1970 where not named
Hydrotaea aenescens but
Ophyra capensis. Both species are really "the same" except for details (Fonseca)
Ophyra capensis :
Squamae white with whitish border and fringe. Presutural dorsocentrals and acrostichals hardly distinguishable from thoracic hairs. 4,5-5,5 mm
and for females : " frontal triangle extending to lunule. "
There were 2
Ophyra in Fonseca key, the other one was
Ophyra leucostoma, with description : "Lower squama strongly darkened, with dark brown border and fringe.
Presutural dorsocentrals well, acrostichals moderately, developed. Females : Frontal triangle not reaching lunule. 5,5-7,25 mm.
This one is now named
Hydrotaea ignava (Harris 1780) !
As I see from the comments here we could read from pictures about the front ...
Here are some pictures with different angles of this zone of the head...
Can I hope some comments about and perhaps an ID ?
Do I have to add that all those species are now recognised and present in Belgium :
Hydrotaea aenescens,
Hydrotaea capensis and
Hydrotaea ignava...
Thanks for reading,
Have a good day,
Didier.
Edited by Tetrao on 25-05-2024 08:06