Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Identified as 'Parageron gratus' by David Gibbs
Posted by valter on 10-02-2008 18:54
#1
Date Photo Taken: February 9, 2008
Location: Azinhal, Portugal
Edited by valter on 11-02-2008 12:31
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-02-2008 19:53
#3
lucky these guys!!! I want to see these beauties! This is Bombyliidae - Parageron sp. Very common in the South... I haven't seen any Bombyliid so far.... They didn't reach the North yet... :(
Posted by valter on 10-02-2008 21:47
#4
According to Fauna Europaea there are only 1 Species in Portugal:
Parageron incisus
And there are more 4 Species in Europe:
- Parageron gratus
- Parageron loewi
- Parageron punctipennis
- Parageron striatus
What Species could be this one?
What are the main differences among them?
Thanks.
Edited by valter on 10-02-2008 21:48
Posted by javig on 11-02-2008 00:21
#5
I think this is a genus needed revision in Southern Europa. According to Iberfauna database there are 3 species in Pen?nsula Ib?rica: gratus, loewi and incisus.
I am also interested in knowing the difference ;)
Posted by valter on 11-02-2008 09:04
#6
Parageron cf. gratus
Identified as Parageron incisus:
http://flickr.com/photos/77786465@N00/398945061/
Edited by valter on 11-02-2008 23:47
Posted by David Gibbs on 11-02-2008 12:26
#7
All of these are
Parageron gratus as this taxon is currently defined but i have yet to examine the type.
incisus is a large species with shorter, pale hairs on frons.
loewi is a species cloce to
aurata, not sure yet if it they should be placed in
Parageron or
Usia
punctipennis is a spotted winged species of the eastern Med (Italy east)
martini might also be a
Parageron, not seen this one yet and male unknown. type locaity of
martini is near Padul south of Granada 1300m 1 May 1966 when just 2 females taken, as far as i know none have been found since so anyone lucky enough to spend time in this area do get out there and look.
Posted by Andre on 11-02-2008 16:05
#8
Unfortunately
valter is not interested in collecting them... :|
Edited by Andre on 11-02-2008 16:06
Posted by javig on 11-02-2008 20:20
#9
my photos are taken 15 Km from Padul :) I will look... ;)
the female copied by valter, and this male are taken 15 Km north of Padul, and very similar vegetation...
http://diptera.in...d_id=11171
is known the host of these Parageron?
Posted by valter on 11-02-2008 23:42
#10
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David Gibbs wrote:
All of these are
Parageron gratus as this taxon is currently defined but i have yet to examine the type.
incisus is a large species with shorter, pale hairs on frons.
Hello!
3x Biggest than the below
I take some photos of an extra small Parageron like this one (3x smallest than the first one):
That is a small bee identified as Lasioglossum sp.
Edited by valter on 12-02-2008 00:01
Posted by David Gibbs on 12-02-2008 10:33
#11
these are also
gratus females, as is the one identified as
incisus on flicker. most beeflies can vary enormously in size, largely because as parasitoides their final size is dependent on the size of the host they find.
i know of no host for
Parageron but
Usia have been reared from a tenebriod beetle and locust egg pods.