Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Interesting Haematopota

Posted by Kahis on 26-01-2008 18:25
#1

I'd love to get a second opinion of the name of this female Haematopota tabanid. It was dried out from a 'wet' Malaise trap catch, so the fly isn't quite in perfect condition.

Collecting data: Southwestern Finland, August-September 2007 (O. Autio & J. Salmela leg.).

Edited by Kahis on 26-01-2008 18:41

Posted by Jan Willem on 26-01-2008 19:13
#2

Hi Kahis,

I have very little knowledge about Tabanidae, but I will give it a try, just to test myself:): Haemotopota grandis?

Posted by Zeegers on 27-01-2008 11:25
#3

Nono, it's italica, no doubt whatsoever.
First for Finland, Kahis, is it ?

Congratulations.


Theo

Posted by Kahis on 27-01-2008 12:24
#4

Zeegers wrote:
Nono, it's italica, no doubt whatsoever.
First for Finland, Kahis, is it ?

Congratulations.


Thanks. H. italica it is. Kinda first for Finland too. This species was once reported from Finland and formally added to the fauna of the country, but in 2003 we checked all purported specimens and found them wanting. So we deleted the species from the checklist.

It is not a surprise that this species is present in Finland. The species is known from central Sweden and the Russian Leningrad district. Chv?la, Lyneborg & Moucha give the northern limit as 60deg. N lat. which is exactly where this fly was found :)

Edited by Kahis on 27-01-2008 12:25

Posted by Zeegers on 27-01-2008 13:59
#5

You already suspected italica, didn't you ?

Theo

Posted by Kahis on 27-01-2008 15:08
#6

No, I knew it was italica ;)

Posted by Zeegers on 27-01-2008 16:02
#7

And with reason.


Theo

Posted by Jan Willem on 27-01-2008 16:42
#8

So much for testing myself :(:).

I just had a look at "The Horse Flies of Europe" again to check where I went wrong. I went wrong at the coupled with the "greyish sublateral spots on the tergites" (and indeed went totally wrong). After having a look at the picture of the frons of H. grandis, it doesn't look at all like the frons in the specimen of Kahis. I should be less sloppy next time.

But anyway crongratulations Kahis!

Edited by Jan Willem on 27-01-2008 16:51

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 27-01-2008 17:27
#9

Kahis wrote:
No, I knew it was italica ;)



:D:D

Posted by Zeegers on 04-02-2008 17:59
#10

Especially for Kahis

Yesterday I relocated my Haematopota, and I happened to note that I have 3 italica's from central Estonia.
I have been there only once, so apperently italica is not that rare in Estonia either.

Theo