Thread subject: Diptera.info :: medium-sized grey/brown Musca (?)

Posted by Sundew on 10-01-2008 00:03
#1

Hi,
Another fly from Usedom, sunbathing on the small Salix tree in August. The colour recalls Musca domestica, but some details do not match (m-vein too straight?). So I would like to ask you for help.
Thanks, Sundew

Edited by Sundew on 10-01-2008 00:26

Posted by Sundew on 10-01-2008 00:04
#2

Some more pics.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 10-01-2008 00:05
#3

Looks like Musca autumnalis

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-01-2008 00:14
#4

Musca autumnalis - reddish abdomen. and frontalia points to autumnalis, right Tony?

Posted by Sundew on 10-01-2008 00:24
#5

Sounds good - the wing venation matches the pic in the fine compilation of muscid wing venation types under http://popgen.uni...idae2.html. I suppose we are on the right track!
Sundew

Posted by Tony Irwin on 10-01-2008 09:29
#6

In domestica, the male abdomen is not so red and the eyes are set slightly further apart (see http://www.dipter...to_id=2612 ). A red-abdomened Musca sunbathing on a leaf in August in Northern Europe will be a male autumnalis. :)

Posted by Sundew on 10-01-2008 12:19
#7

That settles the matter! Many thanks indeed,
Sundew