Thread subject: Diptera.info :: First fly 2008: Heleomyzidae?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 19:45
#1

Hello!

This afternoon at 2 ?C on foliage on the ground near forest (Ostwestfalen/Germany). If it was Tephrochlamys sp., it was rather large for that genus, about 8-9 mm.

Somewhat larger picture:
http://www.foto-u...mm_big.jpg

Edited by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 19:47

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 19:46
#2

Not visible very well on the pictures, but the abdomen was orange.

Posted by amalia_raluca on 04-01-2008 20:11
#3

Tephrochlamys rufiventris?
http://www.dipter...d_id=10602
Amalia

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 20:35
#4

Hello, Amalia!

amalia_raluca wrote:
Tephrochlamys rufiventris?


I had T. rufiventris here in November: http://www.dipter...ad_id=9823. But that was much smaller than the one today. This one was more the size of a Suillia.

Posted by amalia_raluca on 04-01-2008 20:42
#5

well then let wait for the specialists answers:p
Amalia

Posted by mwkozlowski on 04-01-2008 22:01
#6

compare, please with
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=10602

Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 22:54
#7

Hello!

mwkozlowski wrote:
compare, please with
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=10602


Thanks! But I'm afraid I can't decide, whether my fly has a long enough subcostal cell, too...

Posted by Jan Willem on 07-01-2008 08:37
#8

Hi J?rgen,

I think you are right about this not being Tephrochlamys. Just have a look at the bristles on the costa! That looks different in Tephrochlamys! But let's just wait what Andrzej has to say about this specimen!

Posted by Andrzej on 07-01-2008 13:42
#9

Yes !, I fully agree with Jan opinion. There is a memeber of tribe Heleomyzini and probably a Gymnomus or Heleomyza species :).
I'm not sure about the anterior orbital bristle (if shorter than the posterior one, so could be Gymnomus caesius species group !).
Andrzej

Posted by Juergen Peters on 07-01-2008 20:49
#10

Andrzej wrote:
Yes !, I fully agree with Jan opinion. There is a memeber of tribe Heleomyzini and probably a Gymnomus or Heleomyza species :).
I'm not sure about the anterior orbital bristle (if shorter than the posterior one, so could be Gymnomus caesius species group !).


Thanks, Jan and Andrzej! So really no Tephrochlamys and in any case a new genus for me :).