Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyiidae/Muscidae, Calyptrata, Hungary, October 2006

Posted by Xespok on 03-01-2008 16:51
#1

An Anthomyiid or a Muscid? Does someone have any idea on the genus?

Edited by Xespok on 16-04-2008 20:31

Posted by Xespok on 03-01-2008 16:52
#2

Another view. This could be tough.

Posted by Xespok on 10-02-2008 09:14
#3

I raise this thread also. Nikita, Stephane, Kahis and others, can some of you help with the family?

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 10-02-2008 18:24
#4

I will not be helpfull for this one, but my guess is Anthomyiidae.

Posted by Xespok on 16-04-2008 20:09
#5

I raise this thread. Michael do you have any opinion on this?

Posted by Michael Ackland on 16-04-2008 21:13
#6

The first photo suggests that the arista is plumose? If so it is Hylemya, and with yellow tibia it is Hylemya urbica Wulp female
I might come back on the previous two anthos, they are interesting, but I need some time to check on them

Posted by Xespok on 16-04-2008 21:34
#7

I think the arista is plumose indeed.

Posted by Xespok on 16-04-2008 21:57
#8

I think I found another fly belonging to this species. Another female I assume.

Posted by Xespok on 16-04-2008 21:58
#9

Another view.

Posted by Xespok on 16-04-2008 21:59
#10

And another image.

Posted by Michael Ackland on 17-04-2008 09:16
#11

In the female of urbica the yellowish tibiae can vary from very indistinct and only on the hind tibia, to both mid and hind femora more extensive. In the latter case it approaches the female of Hylemya vagans, and they can be difficult to separate, The male of H. urbica often has entirely black tibiae, and so you have to look at the genitalia to separate it from H. variata which is quite different. If anyone is interested i will post figs of the two genitalia as jpeg files, which might come out clearlt.

Posted by Xespok on 17-04-2008 18:55
#12

Thx Michael for the explanation. We are interested in the figure. I hope I posted some images of the male in another thread (but I may be completely wrong.)

Posted by Michael Ackland on 18-04-2008 14:02
#13

I have had some trouble in getting these drawings to come through. This is my last attempt

Posted by Michael Ackland on 18-04-2008 14:03
#14

The first one is Hylemya urbica, the second is variata

Posted by Michael Ackland on 18-04-2008 17:02
#15

Perhaps this size is smaller