Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phaonia cf. subventa and Phaonia sp. (Muscidae)

Posted by Rui Andrade on 26-12-2007 19:33
#1

I found this fly in Barcelos, Portugal. It seems to me that it belongs to the family Muscidae but I'm not sure.
The last picture shows a different specimen and I don't know if it's the same species. I think it may be a different species because the postpronotum is of a different colour.

date: 2007/12/26


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Edited by Rui Andrade on 03-01-2008 20:15

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-12-2007 19:44
#2

Phaonia sp.?

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-12-2007 20:08
#3

the last seems to be different comparing with the above flies. :|

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 26-12-2007 23:00
#4

The first fly should be Phaonia subventa (short-haired arista, t1 with one posterior seta, t2 with two post. setae).

Posted by Rui Andrade on 26-12-2007 23:38
#5

When you say t1 and t2 are you refering to tibia (sorry, I'm not very used to this terminology)?
The next photo shows the mid tibia. Are the red arrows pointing to the two setae you refer? And how you name the setae that the green arrow is pointing to?

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Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 26-12-2007 23:51
#6

Yes, t1 is tibia 1 (fore tibia) etc. Sorry for the abbreviations.
The 2 posterior setae are correctly pointed by the red arrows.
The green arrow point to the "preapical dorsal seta". This doesn't matter in this case.

Greetings.

Posted by Rui Andrade on 27-12-2007 00:04
#7

Thank you very much Stephane for your explanations:).

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 27-12-2007 00:07
#8

you must look to the legs of those ladies! Don't forget! ;)B)

Posted by Rui Andrade on 28-12-2007 00:21
#9

Stephane Lebrun wrote:
The first fly should be Phaonia subventa (short-haired arista, t1 with one posterior seta, t2 with two post. setae).


Should I write the name as Phaonia cf. subventa?

No one mentioned anything about the last photo. Is it Phaonia?

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 28-12-2007 00:30
#10

yep. Phaonia sp.

the first is Phaonia subventa almost sure as Stephane appointed very well.

Posted by Rui Andrade on 28-12-2007 01:03
#11

Thanks Jorge:)