Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Pangonius?

Posted by Arend Breukel on 17-12-2007 16:25
#1

Is it a Pangonius and can anybody help me further?
Picture taken in june, south of France, Causse de Larzac, alt ca 850 m

Posted by Zeegers on 17-12-2007 20:40
#2

What is the white blurr on the abdomen ?
It's not symmetrical, so it must be artificial.
If you remove this blurr, and make the antennae and tibiae reddish brown instead of this bloodyred, then it would be Pangonius micans.
Did you photoshop it ?

Theo

Posted by Kahis on 18-12-2007 03:28
#3

Zeegers wrote:
What is the white blurr on the abdomen ?
It's not symmetrical, so it must be artificial.


Err ... it looks symmetrical to to me. And there are also pale bands along the sides of the abdomen.

Posted by Arend Breukel on 18-12-2007 09:52
#4

Thanks for your comment, The white spot is real, I did not fotoshop. Attached an other pic of the same fly, it was a big one, copare with the Mylabris variabilis.

Posted by Zeegers on 18-12-2007 18:34
#5

The only species that makes sense in Pangonius micans, indeed.
If so, this specimen is highly atypical.

Is is collected ?


Theo

Posted by Andre on 19-12-2007 10:46
#6

Griseipennis, haustellatus and mauritanus are also known for France (Faunaeur.org). No idea however, how they look like :( .

Posted by Sundew on 19-12-2007 17:02
#7

The individual depicted in http://www.galeri...icans.html has light zones on the abdomen, too...
Sundew

Posted by Tony T on 19-12-2007 20:12
#8

Chvala et al. 1972. The Horse Flies of Europe, describes the abdomen of micans: "... tergite 1 densely light grey dusted. Sides of tergite 2 and large median triangles on tergites 2-3 or to 4 silvery-grey haired, the median triangles usually form a median stripe;"
This description seems to fit the current image.

Posted by Zeegers on 19-12-2007 20:59
#9

Well, it looks unnatural as compared with my collection.
I'm starting to think the flash is the cause of this.
Anyway, you have convinced me it is indeed micans.

Thanks

Theo