Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae (♀♂) Melinda or Bellardia or ?

Posted by eklans on 21-08-2021 09:31
#1

Hi, these flies where found in Ansbach, DE-Franconia, Frankenhoehe Nature Park, old deciduous forest, 2020-08-19. I've identified it as Melinda gentilis but according to the discussions in the thread:
https://diptera.i...ost_425313
I wonder if it could be different ones?

Posted by eklans on 21-08-2021 09:32
#2

♀ 2nd

Posted by eklans on 21-08-2021 09:32
#3

♂ 1st

Posted by eklans on 21-08-2021 09:33
#4

♂ 2nd

Posted by Zeegers on 21-08-2021 11:37
#5

Female is totally OK. Male has a darkened calypter and abdomen seems more bronze than blue (to me) … so should be Bellardia.

Bellardia is about the most common Calliphorid, so I am a bit surprised / worried you have only seen four so far (or five, that is)

Theo

Posted by eklans on 21-08-2021 12:16
#6

Four species (bayeri, pandia, viarum, vulgaris), but more than 200 photos since 2016.
And one bayeri tries to climb C. vomitoria.
Thanks Theo, I will try to indentify the 5th Bellardia now - hopefully it's pusilla.

Posted by eklans on 21-08-2021 12:43
#7

I think the abdomen is blue (the blurry photo shows more of the abdomen) and I hope my question is not too stupid: what about Calliphora loewi?

Posted by Zeegers on 21-08-2021 13:51
#8

You are right, the third antennal segment is too ling for Bellardia.
And you might try to check the number of IA bristles, I think I see 3 post IA (which would make it Onesia)

Theo

Posted by eklans on 21-08-2021 14:23
#9

yes, 3 pst ia - but 1 pre ia? And isn't thorax too blue for Onesia?

Edited by eklans on 21-08-2021 14:24