Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Trichoceridae? from Romania
Posted by cosmln on 05-12-2007 21:31
#1
Hi,
collected couple of days ago (1.December.2007) this tipulid (or limonid?).
very small, at least on what i see normally, around ~4mm body length.
also the antennae are very long maybe is helpful to ID this one.
two photos of the mounted specimen,
cosmln
[EDIT]: title changed
Edited by cosmln on 06-12-2007 22:07
Posted by cosmln on 05-12-2007 21:40
#2
head detail
Posted by Jan Willem on 06-12-2007 15:07
#3
Looks like Trichoceridae to me.
Posted by cosmln on 06-12-2007 22:04
#4
Jan Willem wrote:
Looks like Trichoceridae to me.
Hi Jan,
thanks for that, i didn't know about that family until now.
i will update the subject line.
cosmln
Posted by Andrius on 08-12-2007 16:19
#5
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania.
Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case :)
I could only say that your species looks more like
Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or
Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible :)
Posted by cosmln on 08-12-2007 16:25
#6
Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case :)
I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible :)
Hi,
i have to check but i think i have that paper.
thanks,
cosmln
Posted by cosmln on 08-12-2007 16:42
#7
cosmln wrote:
Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case :)
I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible :)
Hi,
i have to check but i think i have that paper.
thanks,
cosmln
just checked that paper, for identification is not useful.
maybe i will go with material at Luiza Ujvarosi. but when will be couple exemplary, not just that one.
cosmln
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 08-12-2007 16:59
#8
Andrius wrote:
Well, this is really a winter gnat (Trichoceridae). There are now 16 species know from Romania according to this publication:
Ujvarosi, L., Krzeminska, E. 2002. "New data on Trichoceridae (Diptera) from Romania. Entomologica Romanica 7: 63-66.
Usually preparations of genitaliae are needed to tell the species for sure, especially dealing with females, as is this case :)
I could only say that your species looks more like Trichocera (Salrichocera) montium or Trichocera (Saltrichocera) regelationis, although other species are also possible :)
It is not T. regelationis. No spots on the wings.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 08-12-2007 17:01
#9
hmmm.. the photo is very clear and it is possible to have 2 spots, so T. regelationis is a possibility indeed..