Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Small, black... and unknown #2 (Brachycera) --> Scaptomyza cf. pallida (Drosophilidae)
Posted by Juergen Peters on 29-11-2007 00:32
#1
Hello!
Another small (3 mm) black fly, from our garden shed today (Ostwestfalen/Germany). I have no idea about the family... Sorry for the bad pictures.
Edited by Juergen Peters on 29-11-2007 19:39
Posted by Juergen Peters on 29-11-2007 00:33
#2
Another pic.
Posted by Paul Beuk on 29-11-2007 09:08
#3
Scaptomyza pallida, Drosophilidae.
Posted by Juergen Peters on 29-11-2007 17:36
#4
Hello, Paul!
Paul Beuk wrote:
Scaptomyza pallida, Drosophilidae.
Many thanks! Odd... Facing it in the garden I had the strong (general) impression of
Scaptomyza pallida ;), but when looking at the photos later, it seemed much too dark to me. Not like those from the last winter:
http://insektenfo...entid=9684
http://insektenfo...entid=8732
Edited by Juergen Peters on 29-11-2007 19:38
Posted by Kahis on 29-11-2007 18:13
#5
It is a
Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is
S. pallida or not.
Posted by Juergen Peters on 29-11-2007 19:46
#6
Hello, Kahis!
Kahis wrote:
It is a Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is S. pallida or not.
Thanks! Here in Germany there are 3
Scaptomyza species listed besides
pallida:
S. flava (this one doesn't look like as if it could have been named
flava (yellow)),
graminum and
griseola (that would fit well: greyish, blackish). But I'm afraid, it can't be so easy... ;)
Posted by Kahis on 29-11-2007 19:53
#7
Juergen Peters wrote:
Hello, Kahis!
Kahis wrote:
It is a Scaptomyza, but I can not tell if it is S. pallida or not.
Thanks! Here in Germany there are 3
Scaptomyza species listed besides
pallida:
S. flava (this one doesn't look like as if it could have been named
flava (yellow)),
graminum and
griseola (that would fit well: greyish, blackish). But I'm afraid, it can't be so easy... ;)
Be very afraid :) Most (European) Scaptomyza species vary in color. And there are at least two additional species I think should occur in Germany (
S. consimilis and especially
S. montana). Reliable identification is usually possible only from male genitalia.
Posted by Paul Beuk on 29-11-2007 20:53
#8
Still, I think
pallida is the only one with this mesonotal pattern, though usually it is paler. Maybe the specimen was a little fatty or wet.