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Small diptera ID - Ephydridae
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aprox. 2mm on rose in garden near Copenhagen.
Any chance of ID?
August 8th.

Thanks in advance, Ole
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takeoff.....

No lateral pix, sry!
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Hello,

I think, Ephydridae (near Philygria?). But I am no expert.
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hi, Jürgen.
Maybe...
But none look alike in the galleri.
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Trixoscelis
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Thank You very much, Paul!
Greetings, Ole
 
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Hi ole, Jürgen & Paul,
I think I see three dorscocentrals, that with the white wing spot but lacking a dark outer wing border should exclude Trixoscelis marginella. There are no other Trixoscelis species in North-West Europe to my knowledge that have these features.
Maybe it is indeed a Ephydridae, like Jürgen suggested, what do you think, Paul?
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As for me it is not a Trixoscelis species. The specimen has less than 5 pairs of dorsocentral bristles (probably 1+2 pairs) and the antenna seems to be lengthened (not typically rounded as in European Trixoscelis species). I see a white spot near the apical part of the wing membrane Frown. Maybe a better picture will solve the ID problem at the family level...
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If Andrzej says no to Trixoscelis then we are back to Ephydridae
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I also think Ephydridae subfamily Ilytheinae.
 
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Looks like a Philygria from these photos, but not one I recognize. A specimen would be useful! Wink
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yes - A specimen would indeed be useful!

Thank you very much!
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