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Berlin - July 2019 - female - 8.5mm

Hello everyone, i found this attracted to light at my balcony. I have Thereva nobilitata male and female but this looks different. I try to use Haarto and Winqvist to match the frontal callus but it isn't working very well. Any suggestions?

Thank you. Smile
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frontal callus and two dc visible
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abdomen lateral
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by the way, there is a spam message in the following post:
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thorax. interesting. I am having trouble reading this because it looks like 1 dc and 2 ia. Maybe i am not seeing it correctly. Perhaps it is just nobilitata.
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Definitely 2 post DC.
SO no nobiliata.
The tibiae look very yellow, may be the flash (?).

It is not golden enough for handlirschi, which is more typical of August anyway.

So I am as lost as you are.


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Hi! nice one!
can you comment on the colour of halter and halter knob?
The angle of the pictures are not good to see these.

thanks for the comments!
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Very dark, right ? Again, no nobilitata.

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Hello Theo and Jonas,

My apologies to both of you. I am very sorry for not noticing the replies. I've been busy lately and i just didn't notice. I figure everyone is in the field this time of year. Again, very sorry. I feel bad about it. Frown

I will add some more photos soon. I'm going to get my external drive and look through my photos. I will add photos of the legs and the haltere if i can see it. I have a specimen so i can always revisit this page. I must admit that i am definitely lost with this one. I appreciate the help very much.

I will return with more photos and info...
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size (measured alive as always)
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lateral view with crop of haltere. knob seems to be grayish with a dark base. smoky i guess. maybe flash hurts the true color?
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face and forelegs and a bit of the thorax in view
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I know very little about Therevidae so i don't want to make a fool of myself Smile but i was wondering if it could be Thereva inornata female? i don't have enough info abut Thereva so it's just a guess. Sorry if i am way off.
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