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 Lonchaeidae [was Shining black fly in south-west France]
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| pierred |
Posted on 19-07-2019 13:58
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Hello, (Click on the picture to get a better resolution. Click again on the picture to come back.)  Pierre Duhem : France : Saint-André-d'Allas : 24200 : 29/07/2008 Altitude : 270 m - Taille : 5-6 mm Réf. : 235812  Pierre Duhem : France : Saint-André-d'Allas : 24200 : 29/07/2008 Altitude : 270 m - Taille : 5-6 mm Réf. : 235813 evdb pointed me to the Lauxaniidae, but I don't find such short yellowish wings. More, The ptilinal suture is still rather open. And what do you think about four ocelli ? Thanks in advance for any help. Edited by pierred on 21-07-2019 08:20 Pierre Duhem |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 19-07-2019 14:08
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I don't see dorsal preapical bristles on tibiae and I do see something black sticking out of the rear end. I think Tephritoidea. |
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| pierred |
Posted on 19-07-2019 14:29
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John, Thanks. I had overseen the ovipositor. Pierre Duhem |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 19-07-2019 16:03
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Lonchaeidae, thinking of Earomyia
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| pierred |
Posted on 19-07-2019 16:55
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1413 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Thanks, Paul. I didn't know this genus. Pierre Duhem |
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| pierred |
Posted on 21-07-2019 08:28
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1413 Joined: 21.04.05 |
According to FE and INPN, there is a single species in France, Earomyia bazini (Séguy, 1932).
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| Jan Maca |
Posted on 21-07-2019 10:48
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I think this is a Dasiops: lunula seems to be with setae, vibrissa present (although visible only on one side). And certainly there are more Earomyia species in France, just they are unrecorded.
Edited by Jan Maca on 21-07-2019 10:54 |
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| pierred |
Posted on 21-07-2019 10:56
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1413 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Thanks Jan.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-07-2019 17:55
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pierred wrote: Apart from the fact that Jan could be right with his Dasiops (Earomyia and Dasiops are both relatively scarce here and I did not bother to dig up my key, sorry), do not put too much trust on the distribution of those genera in France as given by Faune Europaea.
According to FE and INPN, there is a single species in France, Earomyia bazini (Séguy, 1932). Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| pierred |
Posted on 21-07-2019 19:58
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OK, Paul. As always, nowadays, Fauna Europaea is only taken as an information source, not as a proof. Pierre Duhem |
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| Iain MacGowan |
Posted on 21-07-2019 21:46
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It looks like a female Dasiops at this size most probably a female D. latifrons. The French Lonchaeidae were reviewed by Withers & MacGowan (2014) and the most up to date and accurate distribution maps can be found at Lonchaeidae online. Dasiops latifrons map is at http://lonchaeidae.myspecies.info/category/lonchaeidae-classification-and-species-info/lonchaeidae/dasiopiniae/dasiops/dasiops-latifro Iain MacGowan |
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| pierred |
Posted on 22-07-2019 06:43
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1413 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Thanks a lot, Iain.
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but don't see the image in the post.
