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Asilidae to identify in Buenos Aires
Diego Rosa
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Posted on 24-01-2019 21:06
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Hi, I've found this creature in San Isidro, Buenos Aires. I'd like to identify it. At first sight, I thought it was a Blepharepium sp, but there are some significant differences, as the lack of a clear border in each abdominal segment

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Eric Fisher
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From your photo, looks like Diogmites coffeatus; but I can't be certain, as I need more detail & angles. That sp. mimics dark vespidae and has similar coloration to this one.
 
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Thanks, Eric for your reply. Yesterday I found it again in the same areas and I could take more pictures. Hope they are good enough to see more details.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GTLI-Kqt_s7-7OVcZ8khcObjHljhEjbV

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_0SdfDMCkl-qU8zs6yYyiqkHNKS3u2mb

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Chris Cohen
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This is something from the tribe Plesiommatini. The eyes diverging ventrally are a very good character for this tribe. Compare with http://www.hr-rna.com/RNA/Rfly%20pages/Plesiomma%20page.htm

I don't think Plesiommatini has been recorded from Argentina, but Cystoprosopa semirufa was described from Montevideo, Uruguay. I'll have to look into the literature to see if I can get some more info. Great find!
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Eric Fisher
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Yes, I now can see that this is a Plesiomma sp. I haven't been able to open the supplemental images that Diego sent (show view of face?) but after Chris mentioned this genus, the overall shape & impression now says "Plesiomma" to me also. Cystoprosopa is a closely related genus but has a 'fatter' head and shorter antennae than this fly.

Cheers, Eric
 
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Yeah, one of the additional images had a view of the face. I can't seem to attach or embed it, annoyingly.
Edited by Chris Cohen on 19-02-2019 02:44
 
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