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 Tachinidae - Dinera grisescens
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| Jessica |
Posted on 08-12-2018 22:46
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Hello, Can someone help me for this fly ? Is it genus Solieria ? Saw on the 23.06.2018, south of France.  
Edited by Jessica on 30-03-2019 22:51 |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 09-12-2018 00:31
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Antennae are too small for tribe Leskiini. I think it is Dexiini. Maybe Dinera? Or Estheria because of closed cell r5. I haven't tried to key it. |
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| Nacho Cabellos |
Posted on 09-12-2018 03:59
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I think it fits with Dinera grisescens. |
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| Jessica |
Posted on 09-12-2018 09:34
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Ok, thank you very much ! I did not see that this species had orange legs. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 09-12-2018 10:24
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
it does Theo |
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| Jessica |
Posted on 09-12-2018 11:49
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Can some Estheria have orange legs too ? Because the little petiole of R4+5 seems to fit to this genus. |
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| Nacho Cabellos |
Posted on 09-12-2018 20:02
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E. bohemani has yellowish tibiae, I think.
Edited by Nacho Cabellos on 09-12-2018 20:03 |
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| Jessica |
Posted on 09-12-2018 20:15
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Ok, thank you ! Si I looked for this specie on the key, but it's said that she has 4 dc behind the suture, and I saw just 3 on mine  And for humeral bristle, I don't see well, the quality of images is not very good, but I don't think there is 5 humeral bristle |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 09-12-2018 20:18
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My E. bohemani had a much longer petiole... See https://diptera.i...pid=261620. |
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| Nacho Cabellos |
Posted on 09-12-2018 20:33
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And Estheria usually has discal setae on T3 and T4 |
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| Jessica |
Posted on 09-12-2018 20:38
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Oh ok, so it's not this genus. Not easy ! |
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| Jessica |
Posted on 10-12-2018 19:15
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Is all species have discal setae on T3 and T4 ? I found this on the web :https://www.natur...rretti.pdf The wing seems similar to Estheria microcera ? Edited by Jessica on 10-12-2018 19:17 |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 10-12-2018 20:04
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An interesting paper indeed! However, in the overall description of genus Estheria some characters are given that do not fit your pictured animal, e.g. "mid-dorsal depression on abdominal syntergite 1+2 extending back to hind margin of that segment" and "abdominal tergites 3–5 with discal setae". So I doubt that yours is an Estheria. Dinera grisescens (http://tachinidae...fo/file/65) would be a good match. |
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| Jessica |
Posted on 10-12-2018 20:12
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Thank you ! The one in the photo is very similar indeed. |
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but don't see the image in the post.
