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Bibionidae: Bibio longipes? --> most likely Bibio longipes
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kuv |
Posted on 14-11-2018 17:47
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Pinneberg-Waldenau near Hamburg, at the edge of the mixed forest Klövensteen, at a leaf of Stinging nettle; Outsidephotos: kuv, 16th of October 2017. Perhaps Bibio clavipes? Is my idea ok? Please help to get the ID and whether male or female. Kuv kuv attached the following image: [87.04Kb] Edited by kuv on 17-11-2018 17:40 |
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kuv |
Posted on 14-11-2018 17:51
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
2nd picture:
kuv attached the following image: [77.49Kb] |
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Sundew |
Posted on 14-11-2018 20:53
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3890 Joined: 28.07.07 |
First, we cannot see the tip of the front tibiae, which is needed to discriminate between Bibio and Dilophus. In Bibio, the front tibiae end in a pair of large spurs, in Dilophus there is a circlet of small spines. However, the males of the frequent D. febrilis do not have such swollen hind tibiae and tarsi. So it might be a Bibio indeed. There are two autums species, B. longipes and B. clavipes (see https://www.flick...177500145/). B. clavipes has a rather pale stigma that does not extend into the tip of the costal cell; I saw it in Brandenburg recently. In your case, I would vote for B. longipes. Maybe Theo can say more. Regards, Sundew |
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kuv |
Posted on 15-11-2018 10:12
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you very much Sundew . I like your comments and sound information (not only to "my diptera". I'll change headline with B. longipes and questionmark. Greetings Kuv |
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John Carr |
Posted on 15-11-2018 21:47
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9840 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Sundew wrote: First, we cannot see the tip of the front tibiae, which is needed to discriminate between Bibio and Dilophus. Dilophus has a longer r-m crossvein than Bibio and a ridge on the front of the thorax. |
Zeegers |
Posted on 16-11-2018 18:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
In males Dilophus, the hind metatarsus is slender. So I agree with Sundew, most likely Bibio longips for the reasons given by her. But I am not dead sure Theo |
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kuv |
Posted on 17-11-2018 17:40
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3620 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you very much Sundew, John an Theo. It's nice to have an ear on the conversation of the experts! Greetings Kuv |
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