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diptera with dark wing pattern: Tabanidae?
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Thomas Brand |
Posted on 26-05-2018 21:53
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Member Location: Posts: 144 Joined: 12.01.12 |
Hi, I know diptera with dark pattern on the wings from Tephritidae. Is this a species of this family? 2018-05-26, Northwest Germany, Lower Saxony, Ammerland, Rastede, in a garden (here sitting on a T-Shirt) Thank you all for ID! Thomas Thomas Brand attached the following image: [213.16Kb] Edited by Thomas Brand on 26-05-2018 22:29 |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 26-05-2018 21:59
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Hello Thomas, this is not Tephritidae. I think it is a horse fly (Tabanidae). Change the title and wait for some help. I do not know much about Tabanidae myself, other than the fact that the bite is very painful.
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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Thomas Brand |
Posted on 26-05-2018 22:33
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Member Location: Posts: 144 Joined: 12.01.12 |
Thank you! By comparing pictures, it might be Chrysops viduatus. But I do not know anything about the family or species. Thomas |
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Juergen Peters |
Posted on 26-05-2018 23:19
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13592 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hi, johnes81 wrote:other than the fact that the bite is very painful. I can confirm that! In all the last years the Tabanidae season with people biting species began in mid June (sometimes already in the second June week) with Haematopota (pluvialis). But the last few days photographing at the forestborder was quite awkward because of very obtrusive Chrysops females We never had many Chrysops here. I can only remember of half a dozen sightings in more than 15 years. Seems as if that changes rapidly (because of global warming?). Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
johnes81 |
Posted on 26-05-2018 23:35
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Hello Jürgen, H. pluvialis is the one that bit me two years ago. I will never forget that experience it was quite painful! I was kneeling down holding a flower trying to photograph a diptera of some sort. I don't even remember what i was trying to photograph because suddenly i felt an intense pain on the palm of my hand. The horse fly landed on the palm of my hand that was holding the camera, then it bit me. I can confirm that it is a painful bite. I can almost feel the pain again justi thinking about it. H. pluvialis is horrible at the local park. These flies follow me and my wife everywhere. We have much trouble trying to photograph insects. I have yet to see a Chrysops species. In fact, i only ever see H. pluvialis where i live. I've visited several places around Berlin and i still do not see other Tabanidae species. Very interesting. Chrysops looks larger than H. pluvialis. I bet that bite is worse than H. pluvialis. Be careful, my Friend. The weather should be quite warm the next weeks, so they may be quite active now. I hope that you have a pleasant night John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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John Carr |
Posted on 27-05-2018 00:48
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9814 Joined: 22.10.10 |
In America Haematopota is rare and Chrysops is common. |
Zeegers |
Posted on 27-05-2018 08:12
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18472 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is the female of Ch. caecutiens. @ John : Haematopota is surprisingly rare in the Nearctic (from our point of view). Theo |
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Thomas Brand |
Posted on 27-05-2018 14:32
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Member Location: Posts: 144 Joined: 12.01.12 |
Thank you all for the interesting remarks and ID! Thomas |
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