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 Tricogena rubricosa
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-05-2018 09:53
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
female - Berlin - May 2018 I figure that this specimen is Rhinophoridae based solely upon wing venation. I checked against the list of Rhinophoridae for Germany and Tricogena seems to match. Anyone confirm? I have only seen Phyto melanocephala of Rhinophoridae, so i am not positive that this id is correct. I have no reference material for this family. Any know of keys with genitalia? Thank you for your time. johnes81 attached the following image:  [23.92Kb] Edited by johnes81 on 24-05-2018 09:55 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-05-2018 09:53
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
lateral
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-05-2018 09:53
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
orange base of antennae
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-05-2018 09:54
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
radial node has bristles
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-05-2018 09:54
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
ovipositor, spermathecae and wing.
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 24-05-2018 11:23
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
That is a yes. But you cannot recognize a Rhinophorid on wing venation.... you need to check the postscutellum Theo |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-05-2018 14:25
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Thank you, Theo. Thanks for the tip as well. Good to know. I actually thought it was a Tachinid at first glance. I made a few photos then i realized that it doesn't appear to be a Tachinid. I thought about Rhinophoridae and ended up at Tricogena. Very interesting fly. I don't see Rhinophoridae very often or i don't recognize them very well. One thing that bothered me is the hairy face. The orange of the antennae isn't always visible. The red bristly legs still makes me think of a Tachinid. Good thing i didn't try to key it as a Tachinid 
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 24-05-2018 14:27
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18518 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Trichogena (or whichever spelling you prefer) is indeed the most Tachinid-like of Rhinophoridae. The very large genital in male and yellow second antennal segment in female make it easy to recognize, once you know the species. Theo |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 24-05-2018 14:33
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Yes, i almost mistakenly tried to key it as a Tachinid. Something reminded me of Phyto. I guess i got lucky this time and made the right decision. Otherwise, i might be banging the keyboard all day trying to find a match with Tachinidae. I will definitely remember those antennal segments. Hopefully i can find a male. I Thank you very much, Sir. You are a big help and i appreciate it
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but don't see the image in the post.