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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-05-2018 04:07
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Russia, Tuva, 18.05
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| Ectemnius |
Posted on 22-05-2018 10:46
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 845 Joined: 22.11.11 |
Hello Nikita Vikhrev, Looks very interesting, but without any useable features for ID. Probably a Tragopinae close to Traginops or Schildomyia…. Regards, Ectemnius Edited by Ectemnius on 22-05-2018 12:19 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-05-2018 12:51
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you, Ectemnius. 1. Dorsal view could help? 2. Collected from fallen poplar Enisey River Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [144.15Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Ectemnius |
Posted on 22-05-2018 13:20
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 845 Joined: 22.11.11 |
Heh, Fooled! It's a Ulidiidae, Callopistromyia annulipes looks most similar. Although that species has more dots on the wing.... Regards, Ectemnius (for C. annulipes see: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270420686_New_Records_of_Callopistromyia_annulipes_Macquart_Diptera_Ulidiidae_Otitinae_Myennidini_in_Europe) |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 22-05-2018 13:41
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9841 Joined: 22.10.10 |
See if it fits in Kameneva and Korneyev's revision of Myennidini. It reminds me of Pseudotephritis. |
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| Ectemnius |
Posted on 22-05-2018 13:52
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 845 Joined: 22.11.11 |
John is right. Here is a key to the known species: http://www.entomology.org.il/sites/default/files/pdfs/p.497%20kameneva%20and%20korneyev.pdf Regards, ectemnius |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-05-2018 13:53
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Ectemnius! Thank you, John! (I started with Ulidiidae, but overlooked Callopistromyia.) Callopistromyia has a curious distribution. Even more curiious is that in the Gallery the wing pattern of specimens from Europe and USA is the same, while it is clearly different in Sberian specimens (so far we have 1m and 1f and a bad weather). Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Ectemnius |
Posted on 22-05-2018 14:13
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 845 Joined: 22.11.11 |
Hi Nikita, Yes, Callipistromyia is an originally Nearctic fly recently found in Europe. But yours is a Pseudotephritis. Either P. corticalis or P. millepunctata. Based on the drawings in Kamaneva & Korneyev I'd say: P. corticalis. Regards, Ectemnius |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-05-2018 17:41
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9220 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you again, Ectemnius and John. Yes, I have got Kamaneva & Korneyev paper and my fly looks like Pseudotephritis corticalis, thou wing pattern differs. At first glance, I would like to express my doubts in the validity of the genus Callopistromyia: for example, the same butterfly-like wing pattern around ta vein convince my more, that hairy or bare lateral surface of the abdomen. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 05-12-2019 20:01
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Correct, Nikita! Concerning "validity" of the genus (IMHO, only names are "valid", but that's garbage issue, right?) -- there is a phylogeny of the the Myennidini in Kameneva & KOrneyev 2006. which clearly shows Callopistromyia to be a part of the NA Oedopa lineage. The Holarctic "Pseudotephritis" corticalis generally lies out of the two main clades and obviously needs its own genus; however, I'd prefer Tanya Galinskaya do such a job with the molecular data should she obtain a fresh stuff from Russia. This species has been recorded from Mongolia by Soos and from Luga by Hennig (Stackelberg's material). It is very rare compared to other Myennidini, but occurs on wet logs as well. Edited by Nosferatumyia on 05-12-2019 20:02 Val |
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