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Tachinidae uneasy to identify
clovis
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Posted on 23-01-2018 16:48
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Hi,

This is a tachinidae I have in stock since a while. But still, I can't manage to even find a convincing genera name. i used "central european key" and it lead me (hardly) to Masicera. It doesn't look really similar on picture I found.

Do you have any idea?

From north France, in a glade.
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos199/big/Peronne en Melantois juin 2014 29.jpg
clovis : France : Péronne-en-Mélantois : 59273 : 19/06/2014
Altitude : 26 m - Taille : 12 mm
Réf. : 199088
 
clovis
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Posted on 23-01-2018 19:35
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Réf. : 199088
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos199/big/IMG_6268.JPG
clovis : France : Péronne-en-Mélantois : 59273 : 19/06/2014
Altitude : 26 m - Taille : 12 mm
Réf. : 199089
 
clovis
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Posted on 23-01-2018 19:38
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www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos199/big/Peronne en melantois juin 2014 4.JPG
clovis : France : Péronne-en-Mélantois : 59273 : 19/06/2014
Altitude : 26 m - Taille : 12 mm
Réf. : 199090
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 23-01-2018 21:09
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Clearly a Lydella, looks like thompsoni.

So, what was the habitat ?


Theo
 
clovis
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Posted on 24-01-2018 14:52
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It's in a swampy area. In the plants on side of a pool
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 24-01-2018 19:15
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OK, that does not exclude any Lydella.
As said, long third antennal segment suggests thompsoni.

Theo
 
clovis
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Posted on 25-01-2018 19:23
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Just try to follow the key on this genus, but failed. Front doesn't seems really large, but I don't get the idea of the pruinosity and the marginales.
Wich angle of the dry specimen would help to be more confident on the specie? Arista?
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 25-01-2018 19:37
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A good lateral view on the antenna (it is hidden, now)
a dorsal view on the abdomen, obliquely from behind
the wing.


Theo
 
clovis
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Posted on 26-01-2018 14:33
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Is it the good angle for abdomen?

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos199/big/IMG_6366.JPG
clovis : France : Péronne-en-Mélantois : 59273 : 19/06/2014
Altitude : 26 m - Taille : 12 mm
Réf. : 199209
 
clovis
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Posted on 26-01-2018 14:34
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Can't do better than that for the antenna.

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos199/big/IMG_6373.JPG
clovis : France : Péronne-en-Mélantois : 59273 : 19/06/2014
Altitude : 26 m - Taille : 12 mm
Réf. : 199210
Edited by clovis on 26-01-2018 14:34
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 26-01-2018 20:21
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Thanks.

Definitely L. thompsoni.


Theo
 
clovis
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Posted on 29-01-2018 14:36
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Youhou, many thanks Théo Grin
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 29-01-2018 17:42
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Thanks for you patience to stay with me.
Lydella is a pretty tricky genus.


Theo
 
clovis
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Posted on 31-01-2018 14:55
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look like, I wasn't going far before you helped Smile
 
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