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Diptera (adult) Muscidae?
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Posted on 05-12-2017 08:54

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I think it is no Tachinidae, but I am not sure if it is Muscidae? To me it looks like Phaonia subventa

Location: Central Germany, 180m asl., 4th May

Thank you for your time!

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Edited by gbohne on 05-12-2017 09:22
Guido Bohne
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I cannot see a Phaonia bristle but it looks like a Phaonia. tibiae look dark to me which excludes subventa. I have examined subventa female and the tibiae are orange on this species but I don't see a dark line on the abdomen.

wait for Stephane to reply...
John and Nini
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Hennig mentions a possible dark line. My female specimen has no dark line but apparently it is possible. I suppose that the tibiae could be darker so maybe it is subventa (variegata.) bitincta is similar. I still say wait for Stephane.
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Posted on 05-12-2017 11:11

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I'll wait & thank you very much for your interest & help! :-)
Guido Bohne
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Posted on 05-12-2017 20:13
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The tibiae are probably lighter than they appear. I'd say P. subventa.
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Posted on 07-12-2017 07:59

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Stephane, thank you very much for confirmation!
Guido Bohne
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