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johnes81 |
Posted on 12-08-2017 17:48
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Thanks.
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Zeegers |
Posted on 12-08-2017 17:54
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18472 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Very nice, but can we see the fly as well ? Especially the thorax and scutellum ? Thanks Theo |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 12-08-2017 18:06
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
anything for you Zeegers. just ask. You are invaluable to me. Thanks!
johnes81 attached the following image: [57.87Kb] John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 12-08-2017 18:19
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18472 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Thnaks. I'd say it is the male of rotundatum, but separating these from nudifrons is very tricky. Females are straightforward.... Theo |
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johnes81 |
Posted on 12-08-2017 19:05
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
I've sent a pm to you Theo. Meantime, I remember all that you say about these. I think that I've read every thread here about Gymnosoma. Thus, I collected this one for id. I'm not sure if you want specimens from Germany for dna study. But if I come across a strange Gymnosoma, then I will keep in 95% ethanol for you. Thank You for the info. I will study this one carefully. I will try to find a nudifrons but they are not listed for Berlin. Maybe I will find a first record in the future. also, I will drop the genitalia in koh tomorrow to clear them a bit better. Then I will make new photos with clove oil. Maybe I can maker nicer photos for reference. Edited by johnes81 on 12-08-2017 19:07 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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