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Odinia sp.
Ben Hamers
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Could this be Odinia maculata ?

Seen in June in a moor, Southern Limburg, the Netherlands.

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This is Neoalticomerus (5 dorsocentrals, Odinia has only 4). N. formosus is known from Germany, other species are possible.
 
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That is a new genus for the Netherlands. Grin
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Isn't it the other way around? Odinia with 5 pairs of dorsocentrals and Neoalticomerus with 4?
 
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You are right, according to the Contributions to a Manual of Palaearctic Diptera...
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Indeed, this is Odinia spec., NOT Neoalticomerus. As far as I know currently only Neoalticomerus formosus is known from Europe. This species clearly looks different.
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You are right. Sorry for the desinformation. It is Odinia, difficult to determine from the photo.
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And a note to Neoalticomerus: Except of formosus, there is another species known from France and Hungary - N. fabricius Withers and Papp 2012, Dipterist Digest 19: 59.
 
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Interesting! Can someone send me a copy of Withers & Papp (2012)?
 
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Check your mail Rui :-).
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Thanks to all of you for your comments.

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Hello All,
Came to this topic by accident. To my surprise the question asked in the first post is not answered...
Yes this is Odinia maculata (or trinotata according to the world catalog). Two eye fascia, large black spots at crossveins, dark markings on all antennal segments, brown thoracic vittae and dark legs.
The pictures here included are however still in the gallery as Neoalticomerus: https://diptera.i...lbum_id=32
And, Neoalticomerus is now known from the Netherlands: https://www.resea..._Odiniidae Grin
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Ectemnius wrote:
The pictures here included are however still in the gallery as Neoalticomerus: https://diptera.i...lbum_id=32
Actually, just one, but I renamed it as Odinia maculata. I will look in that trinotata issue later.
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