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Empididae for ID, N Spain
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Posted on 22-01-2017 19:18
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Genus Empis for sure. Might this be Empis sinuosa??? Sorry I couldn't photograph the male. I have pictures of a male that matches this female to perfection in the same spot but from last year. If you think it would be interesting I can post it in another thread.

Avilés, Asturias, N Spain in rural area. 28.IV.2016

Thanks in advance for any help Smile
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A lateral view.
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And last picture, a frontal view.
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Not a chance? :-(
 
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[Hesitating...] What was the size?
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Thanks for trying, Paul! Smile

Let's say about the size of an Empis (Pachymeria) sp. (which clearly is not) or an Empis (Leptempis) sp. (I have seen Empis abdominalis before, and was about its size). Somehow biggish. The pictures were taken with a compact camera and still allowed decent results. So, not precisely a small Empis Wink

It was feeding on a well developed typical Umbeliferae that might be Oenanthe crocata. Compare the size of the flowers and that should help to have an idea of the size of the fly too.

Good luck and thanks again! Smile
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It resembles Empis tessellata castellana as described in Die Fliegen but I do not know what the present status of the that taxon is.
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Paul, I am ashamed for this very late reply awkward I have tried to solve the mystery of the status of the taxon for a while. It seems that it is Empis (Euempis) morio nowadays. But I forgot to say something here... Disgraceful.

The problem is that i believe (I might be wrong) that Empis morio has a dark F1. And there is something dirturbing in this fly for Euempis: bristles on legs don't seem to be strong enough. I think it should belong to another subgenus. But of course, only my thoughts Wink

Anyway, thanks a lot for the effort, I am/was completely concious of the difficulty Smile

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Well, one of the Mediterranean Polyblepharis species is also possible.
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Thanks again, Paul!! Smile I am going to try in that direction Wink
 
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20.11.17 15:09
Pls sign to help save Botanophila fonsecai https://home.38deg
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seca. Thx

17.11.17 14:22
Thanks Paul, interesting point

16.11.17 13:44
'Holding' might not be the perfect description. Apparently the armature makes contact with sensitive places on the female, coaxing her to agree to mate.

16.11.17 13:43
Is was not quite sure whether the word would apply correctly, but, yes, that is okay.

15.11.17 11:29
How about armature, would that fit? based on http://onlinelibra
ry.wiley.com/doi/1
0.1111/j.1365-3113
.2008.00422.x/pdf
it would seem that these spines etc are used to hold the female!

14.11.17 09:22
All spines, ridges, lobes, etc. on the femur.

14.11.17 08:36
I think bewaffnung is like weapons (on femur 1).

13.11.17 13:10
Hello can any1 tell me how to translate bewaffnung des femur 1? Thx

26.10.17 13:37
Yes it looks like a typo error e instead of a Thanks you

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