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Conopidae from Chile. ID Please
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Roden |
Posted on 23-11-2016 18:05
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
I can not identify this fly. Could you help me? Edited by Roden on 30-11-2016 23:56 |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 23-11-2016 20:06
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18472 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Always mention locality and date. Theo |
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Roden |
Posted on 24-11-2016 01:05
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
Sorry. The image is recent and taken in the Atacama desert coast, northern Chile.
Edited by Roden on 24-11-2016 05:42 |
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Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-11-2016 09:58
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19217 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I suggest Conopidae
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Roden |
Posted on 24-11-2016 18:18
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
Thank you, Paul. |
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Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 24-11-2016 23:44
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Change the title to 'Conopidae from Chile', so you'll attract the attention of Jens-Hermann Stuke, he's the Conopidae expert.
Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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Roden |
Posted on 25-11-2016 00:04
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
Thank you, very much, Gerard. |
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Roden |
Posted on 25-11-2016 08:59
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
Could be Myopa metallica Camras? It is the only Chilean species. |
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John Carr |
Posted on 25-11-2016 16:24
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9814 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Roden wrote: Could be Myopa metallica Camras? It is the only Chilean species. It is similar to the type specimen: http://collection...ue/3130524. I don't know if the Myopinae of Chile are well enough known to rule out a related undescribed species. |
Roden |
Posted on 26-11-2016 08:50
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
In reality they have not been studied John, therefore, it can not be asserted that it is not something new, in a locality 1000 kilometers to the north. However, I understand that there are no more Myopa species registered in the Neotropical region, so it may also be the same, I think. Thank you. |
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jhstuke |
Posted on 28-11-2016 16:52
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Member Location: Leer, Germany Posts: 147 Joined: 06.06.07 |
In fact Myope metallica is the only species that is known from South America with the exception of three Myopa species that are known from Mexico. There are only the type specimens published of M. metallica so far. I donnot see any reason to doubt that it the fly on the photo is in fact M. metallica and I would propose to publish this interesting record. Jens-Hermann |
Roden |
Posted on 29-11-2016 18:32
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
jhstuke wrote: I donnot see any reason to doubt that it the fly on the photo is in fact M. metallica and I would propose to publish this interesting record. Jens-Hermann Is it possible to publish a new distribution record with photos like this one? Or must there be a specimen collected? Edited by Roden on 29-11-2016 18:32 |
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jhstuke |
Posted on 29-11-2016 18:59
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Member Location: Leer, Germany Posts: 147 Joined: 06.06.07 |
I donnot see any reason not to publish the record with a photo - if there will be a split of Myopa metallica in the future everyone can easily look at the photo and decide whether it can still be identified as metallica or not. I would be more restrained if we would know now several similar species that are difficult to distinguish. |
Roden |
Posted on 29-11-2016 22:33
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
Could you suggest where to send the publication? |
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jhstuke |
Posted on 30-11-2016 14:14
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Member Location: Leer, Germany Posts: 147 Joined: 06.06.07 |
No idea - you should choose a journal that prints the photo in colour. |
rvanderweele |
Posted on 30-11-2016 15:02
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
May we post it in the conopid group on Facebook? BTW it belongs in the gallery of diptera.info as well. Amazing fly!
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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Roden |
Posted on 30-11-2016 23:40
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Member Location: Chile Posts: 64 Joined: 19.10.06 |
rvanderweele wrote: May we post it in the conopid group on Facebook? Ruud, I send you a email. |
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John Carr |
Posted on 30-11-2017 13:49
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9814 Joined: 22.10.10 |
This fly is featured in Barahona-Segovia, Rodrigo M., Rodrigo Castillo Tapia, and Laura Pañinao Monsálvez. 2017. First record of Myopa metallica Camras, 1992 (Diptera: Conopidae: Myopinae) in northern Chile after 46 years: a case study of the success of citizen science programs. Journal of Insect Biodiversity 5(13) This web site is not mentioned, only Facebook. |
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