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Beris - strobli?
Anczoviczka
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Posted on 30-06-2016 13:53
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Hi, I found this on wet mountain meadow with Petasites (1000 m), 24. 5. Dark legs, including hind tibia and tarsi, 3rd segment of the antennae does not seem (to me) to be thickened = B. strobli? Thank you for your opinions.
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Anczoviczka wrote:
Hi, I found this on wet mountain meadow with Petasites (1000 m), 24. 5. Dark legs, including hind tibia and tarsi, 3rd segment of the antennae does not seem (to me) to be thickened = B. strobli? Thank you for your opinions.

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libor
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Posted on 30-06-2016 14:48
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Beris strobli or hauseri. Exact ID is possible only after dissection of genital furca.
Libor
 
Anczoviczka
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Posted on 30-06-2016 20:02
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Thank you.
 
Zeegers
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Dear Anczoviczka

A very nice female B. strobli, indeed. Can you please provide more info on the locality ? Czech Republic ?

Theo
 
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Posted on 20-11-2020 22:08
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Theo, how do you separate females of strobli and hauseri?
Thnaks for reply
Libor
PS: Yes, the specimen is from the Ctech Rep., probably eastern Bohemia.
 
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Thanks, Libor.
You will have to wait for the forthcoming publication, I am afraid.
The real strobli I have only seen from the Alps and from Czechoslovakia.

Theo
 
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I will wait, Theo...
By the way, I have all European Beris including kovalevi and schaposchnikowi. Beris trobli - four male from Czech localities and one female (?) from another locality. If you wish to get any data, write me an e-mail. And I can ask directly author of the picture for all data, I know him personally.
Libor
 
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Posted on 21-11-2020 20:34
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Thanks, Libor, for your kind offer.
Our field guide will be restricted to lowland northwestrn Europe
(say, north of the line Paris - Frankfurt). So we will not provide distribution information on central Europe.
Strictly speaking, we do.not need to include Beris strobli, since all lowlands “strobli” have proven to be hauseri. But due to the major confusion, we will include strobli and we would love to use these pictures. So if you could ask the photographer, that would be a great help.

Theo
 
Anczoviczka
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Posted on 22-11-2020 19:23
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Hello both,

this Beris comes from the Giant mountains, wet meadow close to the Luční brook, approximately here: 50°40'41.209"N, 15°43'29.131"E. And I will be very pleased if you use my photo in your publication.
 
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