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Chaetoria stylata (ID by THEO ZEEGERS!!); SW Spain
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Andre Burgers |
Posted on 29-07-2015 19:19
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
May 2014 on Thapsia.
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Andre Burgers |
Posted on 29-07-2015 19:21
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
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Andre Burgers |
Posted on 29-07-2015 19:22
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
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Andre Burgers |
Posted on 29-07-2015 19:22
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 30-07-2015 08:23
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18472 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Very interesting. Looks like Chaetoria stylata. Need to check my collection. Theo |
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Andre Burgers |
Posted on 30-07-2015 12:36
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Bedankt Theo!! Very, very interesting when you find it interesting. I hope your collection confirms your suspicion. So it's normal that I didn't find anything like it. Thanks, again! Groetjes, André Edited by Andre Burgers on 30-07-2015 15:37 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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John Carr |
Posted on 30-07-2015 13:34
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9813 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Zeegers wrote: Very interesting. Looks like Chaetoria stylata. Need to check my collection. Theo What tribe is that in? |
Zeegers |
Posted on 30-07-2015 13:43
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18472 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Exoristini. Have a look at the wing venation. Theo |
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John Carr |
Posted on 30-07-2015 14:10
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9813 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Zeegers wrote: Exoristini. Have a look at the wing venation. Theo The wing reminded me of Microchaetina (Dexiini), and the wing and erect bristles on scutellum reminded me of Voriini in the broader Canadian sense. |
Andre Burgers |
Posted on 30-07-2015 15:46
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Thanks, John & Theo!!!!! "Clash of the Titans". Very interesting indeed. I will look into the venation of the wings, but my knowledge of Diptera is next to 0. Ciao! André errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 30-07-2015 16:00
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18472 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hi John We don't have Microchaetina over here. It agrees with Chaetoria stylata in my collection; * long third antennal segment * facial ridge with bristles * erect apical scutellars - as you well spotted * wing venation: stalk, appendix to bend * large nimbers of setulae on vein R4+5, up to crossvein r-m *lack of discal bristles on tergites * colouration of thorax and tergites. So, to me, it is a match. It seems this might be the first record for Spain ! Need to work on that. Theo |
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Andre Burgers |
Posted on 30-07-2015 16:29
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Theo, Yes, I can see all the characteristics you mention. So, after all it must be quita common this Chaetoria stylata and I am sure that there must be other photos of this species in Biodiversidad virtual but still without ID. I will ask Piluca Álvarez. Thanks!! André errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 31-07-2015 12:33
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18472 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Just to be 1000 % sure (no typo), I asked Peter Tschorsnig and he agrees. And yes,IT IS THE FIRST FOR THE IBERIAN PENINSULA !! Well done, Piluca and myself like to borrow this one for a forthcoming publication . Theo |
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Andre Burgers |
Posted on 31-07-2015 17:33
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
We normally work with 110%. So now there is no shred of doubt about its ID. Perfect job, Theo! (and peter's, of course) The only downside is the (lack of )quality of my photos. And no problem "borrowing" for your and Piluca's publication. Ciao! André errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-10-2018 16:11
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
and the second record was found by me the last week. a nice find this tachinid! |
Andre Burgers |
Posted on 14-10-2018 16:45
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1025 Joined: 23.04.10 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: and the second record was found by me the last week. a nice find this tachinid! Hi Jorge!! Nice to "see" you here. errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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