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 Chamaemyiidae reared, Hungary, June
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| pwalter |
Posted on 06-06-2009 21:41
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, I manged to rear 2 Chamaemyiids from a colony of quite big aphids on Fraxinus excelsior. Any suggestions how to make genitalia peparation? They are ~2.8 mm long. First time I take a photo of these with my new lens 
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| pwalter |
Posted on 06-06-2009 21:45
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 06-06-2009 21:46
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 06-06-2009 22:16
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7192 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Looks like a Leucopis female - hope you managed to rear some males! (Great pics, by the way!)
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 12-06-2009 19:42
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi! I proudly introduce the male:
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| pwalter |
Posted on 12-06-2009 19:43
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Terminalia (do they have to be disected?):
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| pwalter |
Posted on 14-06-2009 19:51
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi! after checking the drawings in the key for Hungarian Leucopis, I relaised that my specimens terminalia was not photogrpahed lateraly, so, here's a more lteral photo. I also compared it to all the speies, and found that neither resembled it. There's no one where surstylus is bent distally, and the paramers are also not even slightly resemble other species. What do You think?
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| Steve Gaimari |
Posted on 18-06-2009 18:34
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 Member Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 169 Joined: 08.10.04 |
Now with the nice dissections of the male genitalia, things become clearer! This is Leucopis palumbi Rondani, 1872. Raspi (1983 - Frustula Entomologica Nuova Serie 6 (19)) clarified the identity of this species, studying the types. Tanasijtshuk (1986) described this as a new species - his Leucopis ulmicola. The genitalic illustrations for both Raspi and Tanasijtshuk are identical to your images, and the descriptions and specimens I have match the external morphology perfectly too. And the puparium is rather unusual for Leucopis, but is just as described for this species. This species is mainly known to attack galling "aphids" (pemphigids, eriosomatids, fordines) on Pistacia, Ulmus, Populus. But never Fraxinus up to this point - were these associated with galls? This is the first time known to be associated with aphids on Fraxinus, but a wider host range is not unexpected. |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 18-06-2009 19:52
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thank You very much! Is it already recorded from Hungary? |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 19-06-2009 07:15
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2124 Joined: 24.07.04 |
I agree with Tony: Great pictures!! Perfect ones to add to the gallery!
Edited by Jan Willem on 19-06-2009 07:16 Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 19-06-2009 08:09
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19225 Joined: 11.05.04 |
In the Hungarian checklist it is listed as 'to be expected'.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 19-06-2009 09:10
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thank You everyone, so I'll write to Dr Papp, maybe he'll have time to care about this find. He wrote the key for the family (and lauxaniids) in Hungary. Right now I'm just abut to go photographing (I really would like to catch a Chyropteromyza at a cave where bats live - there's maybe some 0.5% chance as it was only found twice in my country) but when I come baxk I'll upload it. |
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but don't see the image in the post.