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 Two different Cylindromyias (Tachinidae)? (14.09.21) --> C. brassicaria group
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 15-09-2021 19:34
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13650 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, two years ago I had my first encounter with the genus Cylindromyia here (northwest Germany), two individuals in about 2 weeks. They were identified by Theo Zeegers as Cylindromyia brassicaria. Yesterday I found the genus again on camomile flowers next to a path between acres. Length about 10 mm. It was conspicuous, that one individual had a continuous stripe on its abdomen, the other not. Different species, a gender difference or simple variation? Here also a little video of one of the flies cleaning its legs: https://insektenf...utzend.mp4 Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [77.7Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 15-09-2021 22:11 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 15-09-2021 19:35
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13650 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #2
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 15-09-2021 19:35
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13650 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #3 (other individual)
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 15-09-2021 19:36
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13650 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #4
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 15-09-2021 19:37
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13650 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #5
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| eklans |
Posted on 15-09-2021 19:51
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3399 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hallo Jürgen, the other one - with continuous stripe - has no discals: C. Pusilla?
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 15-09-2021 19:57
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13650 Joined: 11.09.04 |
eklans wrote: the other one - with continuous stripe - has no discals: C. Pusilla? Thanks, Eric. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-09-2021 21:06
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Both have basal scutellar bristles so both are males in the brassicaria group. Much too vig for pusilla. Theo |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 15-09-2021 22:10
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13650 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Thanks, Theo! Zeegers wrote: Much too big for pusilla. the second one may have been a little bit smaller, but not strikingly. Edited by Juergen Peters on 16-09-2021 17:41 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-09-2021 07:28
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18525 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Still, the wing venation and the arista contradicts pusilla. Theo |
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but don't see the image in the post.
