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Unknown Tachinidae => Nemorilla floralis female
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Klaus Hartwig |
Posted on 07-06-2016 00:47
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Member Location: Posts: 52 Joined: 11.06.14 |
Hello, this fly I found at 2016_05_27 in Germany, Timmendorfer Strand, near a fishpond. Is it possible to identify it ? Klaus Hartwig attached the following image: [178.9Kb] Edited by Klaus Hartwig on 12-09-2016 00:39 |
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Klaus Hartwig |
Posted on 07-06-2016 00:47
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Member Location: Posts: 52 Joined: 11.06.14 |
second photo
Klaus Hartwig attached the following image: [165.17Kb] |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 07-06-2016 08:34
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Nemorilla floralis female. Theo |
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sd |
Posted on 08-06-2016 10:40
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Member Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 892 Joined: 11.10.07 |
Hi Theo, Would a better candidate not be Eumea linearcornis? Regards, Steve |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 08-06-2016 11:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Why ? Jizz is different: yellow colouration on parafrontals, pattern on tergites and relatively long second antennal segment support Nemorilla, in my view. Theo |
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sd |
Posted on 08-06-2016 16:56
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Member Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 892 Joined: 11.10.07 |
Hi, I can the humeral bristles in a triangle now on a better screen - Nemorilla as you say. What confused me were the 3 narrow central thoracic stripes which in Nemorilla are usually merged into a broad band. Eumea linearcornis is common here but I only have one record of Nemorilla so this is useful info to help separate them in the field. Steve |
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John Carr |
Posted on 08-06-2016 17:21
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10080 Joined: 22.10.10 |
The common species (maculosa in Europe and pyste in North America) have distinctive merged stripes. Some others have five narrow stripes, a common pattern in Winthemiini. |
Zeegers |
Posted on 08-06-2016 18:05
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, these vittae are often merged, but not necessarily so. This tendency is much larger in maculosa than in floralis. Maculosa is much raren in Britain (I suppose ?), in any case it is extinct in the Netherlands. It is very frustating to identify on jizz for others, since it is difficult to communicate. I am glad you figured out the humerals, that is an objective argument of course. THe vittae and the discals indeed coincide with Eumea. Theo |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 08-06-2016 18:06
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Ah, the legs are long relative to the abdomen, which is not so in Eumea. Again a jizz that is very difficult to capture in a key. Theo |
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