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 Musca sp. from Crete
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| markop |
Posted on 28-07-2008 15:02
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 Member Location: Crete, Greece Posts: 91 Joined: 13.10.06 |
* locality: Crete, Greece * date: 29 June 2008 * size: ~8mm * habitat: in and around country house * substrate: marble table 
markop attached the following image:  [87.68Kb] Edited by markop on 30-07-2008 11:08 |
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| markop |
Posted on 28-07-2008 15:04
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Member Location: Crete, Greece Posts: 91 Joined: 13.10.06 |
Posterior view of the same fly:
markop attached the following image:  [76.39Kb] Edited by markop on 30-07-2008 11:09 |
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| socrates |
Posted on 29-07-2008 10:49
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Member Location: California Posts: 109 Joined: 11.02.07 |
Sarcophagidae?
tempus fugit |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 29-07-2008 10:51
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Musca autumnalis. Very reddish abdomen. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 29-07-2008 11:29
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I think this is a female Musca domestica rather than autumnalis.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 29-07-2008 16:19
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Xespok wrote: I think this is a female Musca domestica rather than autumnalis. due the relative size of orbital plates and frontalia?  |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 29-07-2008 16:49
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Exactly. Actually I should recheck the gender.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| markop |
Posted on 30-07-2008 11:06
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Member Location: Crete, Greece Posts: 91 Joined: 13.10.06 |
Thanks for the input Jorge and Gabor, although I really wish I could understand what "orbital plates" and "frontalia" are Interestingly enough, Fauna Europaea lists both M.domestica and M.autumnalis as Absent from the island of Crete! Now I know that it's not a very reliable source on Cretan fauna, but I thought it was worth mentioning... The only Musca species that they list as Present on the island are M.larvipara, M.osiris and M.tempestiva. Any thoughts on this? I'm not an expert by far, but if you tell me what views would help best (if any), I could try and get more photos... Edited by markop on 30-07-2008 11:07 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 30-07-2008 11:45
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Marko Overvuews section is your friend.  |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 30-07-2008 16:14
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I think Fauna Europaea is wrong, probably both autumnalis and domestica occur on the island, provided cattle are kept there.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| markop |
Posted on 30-07-2008 16:33
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Member Location: Crete, Greece Posts: 91 Joined: 13.10.06 |
Thanks again for the input guys! Jorge, you've done a great job on these illustrations Actually cattle are scarce on Crete. Although animal husbandry is a vital activity for the local economy, people here prefer raising goats and sheep, as they are better suited to the island's mainly rocky mountainous terrain and hot/dry climate. Thus, there are loads of goats and sheep on Crete, but very few bovines. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 30-07-2008 17:04
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
which may explain the apparent scarcity of autumnalis. Domestica however, should be present everywhere near human habitations.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| markop |
Posted on 31-07-2008 09:49
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Member Location: Crete, Greece Posts: 91 Joined: 13.10.06 |
So, the final word on this is: female Musca domestica. Thanks again! |
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