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Heleomyzidae - Andrzej, help please!
eurythyrea
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Posted on 25-09-2010 19:35
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Dear friends, I foud this fly today in Hungary in a beech forest. Its size was 6mm long, unfortunately I have no dorsal view, after this photo it lew away.

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Which genus it could be?

Thank you,

Nikola Rahmé
Edited by eurythyrea on 25-09-2010 20:11
 
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Heleomyzidae
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Thank you Stephen! I found here on the gallery Schroederella is similar... but I do not know.

Nikola
 
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I was thinking more of Suillia. If you edit the title line to 'Heleomyzidae', Andrzej will tell you what it is.
 
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Certainly no Suillia, since it has a propleural bristle
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And also no Sciomyzidae, Nikola, since it has a vibrissa
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And no Schroederella, because the fly on the photo has just 1 sternopleural bristle
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A pity that you have no dorsal picture. I think it has no prescutelar bristles, so it can be an eccoptomera. Let wait for Andrzej
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I'd say Eccoptomera.
Stephane.
 
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Thank you folks, I saw it on faunaeur.org, there is 19 species of Eccoptomera, longiseta does live in Hungary too. Next time i'll collect it Wink
 
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There are 6 species from Hungary known, as far as I know. I am not really sure which species, but I can imagine it is E. pallescens. But again,Andrzej will know and if he is not sure, we certainly will never know ;-)
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Forgot to say, Nikola, it is a great photo. I love it.
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Thank you Ruud, and all of you. Genus is more than enough for me!

Nikola
 
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OMG,Nikola, when you go for place No.2 you will never arrive at No.1! ;-)
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Eccoptomera longiseta :-)
Andrzej
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Andrzej, THANK YOU! Smile
 
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And you let it fly away, Nikola. I do not have longiseta in my collection. Ur istenem ;-)
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Ruud, I'll go back for that specimen, I promise! Wink
 
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sure, and you won't be back on diptera.info before you collected the specimen for me. You see my kindness...I do not even insist on a couple Grin
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the specimen is not important ! the pic is enough to see the characters.
It is the only one European species with such body colouration Wink
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences
 
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