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Heleomyzidae - Andrzej, help please!
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eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:35
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Dear friends, I foud this fly today in Hungary in a beech forest. Its size was 6mm long, unfortunately I have no dorsal view, after this photo it lew away. Which genus it could be? Thank you, Nikola Rahmé Edited by eurythyrea on 25-09-2010 20:11 |
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Stephen R |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:41
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Heleomyzidae
Edited by Stephen R on 25-09-2010 19:42 |
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eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:54
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Thank you Stephen! I found here on the gallery Schroederella is similar... but I do not know. Nikola |
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Stephen R |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:05
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
I was thinking more of Suillia. If you edit the title line to 'Heleomyzidae', Andrzej will tell you what it is. |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:10
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Certainly no Suillia, since it has a propleural bristle
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:11
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
And also no Sciomyzidae, Nikola, since it has a vibrissa
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:13
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
And no Schroederella, because the fly on the photo has just 1 sternopleural bristle
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:16
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
A pity that you have no dorsal picture. I think it has no prescutelar bristles, so it can be an eccoptomera. Let wait for Andrzej
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:22
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I'd say Eccoptomera.
Stephane. |
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eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:26
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Thank you folks, I saw it on faunaeur.org, there is 19 species of Eccoptomera, longiseta does live in Hungary too. Next time i'll collect it |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:34
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
There are 6 species from Hungary known, as far as I know. I am not really sure which species, but I can imagine it is E. pallescens. But again,Andrzej will know and if he is not sure, we certainly will never know ;-)
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:37
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Forgot to say, Nikola, it is a great photo. I love it.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:40
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Thank you Ruud, and all of you. Genus is more than enough for me! Nikola |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:54
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
OMG,Nikola, when you go for place No.2 you will never arrive at No.1! ;-)
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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Andrzej |
Posted on 25-09-2010 21:22
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2347 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Eccoptomera longiseta :-) Andrzej dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 21:24
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Andrzej, THANK YOU! |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 21:29
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
And you let it fly away, Nikola. I do not have longiseta in my collection. Ur istenem ;-)
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 21:34
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Ruud, I'll go back for that specimen, I promise! |
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rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 21:39
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
sure, and you won't be back on diptera.info before you collected the specimen for me. You see my kindness...I do not even insist on a couple
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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Andrzej |
Posted on 25-09-2010 21:47
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2347 Joined: 05.01.06 |
the specimen is not important ! the pic is enough to see the characters. It is the only one European species with such body colouration dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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