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 Bibionidae, Bibio varipes, male
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| NakaRB |
Posted on 09-02-2021 20:39
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3069 Joined: 25.11.08 |
Russia, Moscow region, 16.05.2020 
Edited by NakaRB on 10-02-2021 21:13 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-02-2021 08:40
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
First impression is male B. johannis, but legs are a bit dark.... Theo |
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-02-2021 11:12
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3621 Joined: 11.11.18 |
What about B. varipes? Eric |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-02-2021 13:08
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Varipes has light hairs on abdomen.These look black, but I am not sure. Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-02-2021 13:12
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Elongated hind metatars would support varipes, as would the date. |
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-02-2021 13:42
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3621 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Bibionidae males key in Vliegenmepper 1997: 2b Borststukrug grotendeels zwart behaard -> 9 9 Schenen met helder rood -> 10 10 Metatars 3 slank, ongeveer 4 x zo lang als breed -> varipes Greetings, Eric |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-02-2021 17:48
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Must be an excellent key 🤪🤠🍰🥂🥂 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-02-2021 18:04
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3621 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Indeed, it is!  |
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| NakaRB |
Posted on 10-02-2021 21:13
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3069 Joined: 25.11.08 |
Thank you! |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 11-02-2021 16:55
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10080 Joined: 22.10.10 |
eklans wrote: Bibionidae males key in Vliegenmepper 1997: 2b Borststukrug grotendeels zwart behaard -> 9 9 Schenen met helder rood -> 10 10 Metatars 3 slank, ongeveer 4 x zo lang als breed -> varipes Greetings, Eric I would pick "niet noemenswaardig lichter" over "helder rood" in couplet 9, but I end at the same species: "Bibio varipes var. atripes." In America some of the common species of Bibio have several synonyms due to variation in leg color. |
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| eklans |
Posted on 11-02-2021 17:03
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3621 Joined: 11.11.18 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-02-2021 09:50
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18723 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, this “atripes” variation is confusing, hence the doubled key-out. Note that all intermediates do occur. ( meaning: the question whether or not this is atripes, is ill-defined) Theo |
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