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 Piophilidae, Actenoptera hilarella (Norway)
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 01-06-2011 19:48
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Found this 01.06.2011, size approx. 5 mm. Location is Bodø, northern Norway. Possible to identify to family?
Geir79 attached the following image:  [80.31Kb] Edited by Geir79 on 02-06-2011 19:22 |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 01-06-2011 19:49
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Another photo:
Geir79 attached the following image:  [90.5Kb] |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 01-06-2011 19:50
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Last photo:
Geir79 attached the following image:  [89.73Kb] |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 01-06-2011 22:44
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7223 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Sciomyzidae?
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 01-06-2011 23:12
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Clusiidae Clusiinae; however, I do not have this in my collection
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 01-06-2011 23:52
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I doubt it is a Clusiidae. Why not Actenoptera hilarella of the Piophilidae which is entirely yellow, with thickened hind femur bearing 2 rows of shorts setulae beneath ? Stephane. |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 02-06-2011 00:31
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
I can magnify parts of the photos if there are some details that are important for identifying? And found several of these, right outside my doorstep... Can bring one inside and take photos with my USB-microscope. Was thinking of Piophilidae, but the key I used described them as typically black species...(otherwise it fits description in the key). But are no expert on Diptera! |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 02-06-2011 09:40
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I would be interested by having 1 or 2 specimens if possible.  For the expertise, you can try to contact Dr. Andrey Ozerov. Actenoptera is in the Neottiophilinae subfamily which contains yellowish Piophilidae, and there are other yellow piophilids in Piophilinae, like Mycetaulus spp. Stephane. |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 02-06-2011 10:06
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
If they still are where I found them, I could collect, yes. Very slow moving flies too... Searched on the name, found a short description of this species on the norwegian version of Wikipedia, seems to be rare. So got a little curious about it, would be nice with species level ID. Guess I'll go looking for some flies right now, have some spare time today! |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 02-06-2011 12:28
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Got one of them now. Size is 6,5 mm. Are plants I found them on important information? No good at botany, but may take photos... Never collect insects myself, so don't know what to do with it now |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-06-2011 13:04
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Send it to me. To kill it you might put it in the freezer for a while and the keep it in a small dry box where it can not move too much, or, if you have a small container, you can put it in alcohol (anything of 40% +, the higher the better).
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 02-06-2011 15:42
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Found another one, now I got two specimens. Number two is 5-5,5 mm. Two should be enough? Who shall I send it to? Guess I'll get the adress? Have no alcohol, will send it dry. Photo of fly number two: Geir79 attached the following image:  [79.25Kb] |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 02-06-2011 19:08
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Member Location: Posts: 3441 Joined: 29.12.07 |
Mea culpa. I was thinking of Actenoptera option, but the frontal setae were so intricating... With three katepisternals, bare scutellum and clearly lateroclinate orbitals as on photo 2 it must be Actenoptera hilarella Ztt., so Stephan is absolutely right.
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 02-06-2011 19:35
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Thanks, then I guess there's no doubt about Actenoptera hilarella. Still got the two flies (alive), can send if someone are interested. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 02-06-2011 19:42
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
And you have got the first pictures available on the Net ! As I said, I'd want a specimen. Give the second one to Paul ! Stephane. |
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| Geir79 |
Posted on 02-06-2011 20:01
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 689 Joined: 09.03.11 |
Yes, I could do that! Also noticed that there were no photos when I googled the name!  Where do I get your adresses? |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-06-2011 21:55
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Mine is HERE. 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 02-06-2011 22:16
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Member Location: Posts: 3441 Joined: 29.12.07 |
Lucky you! [envy on my face]
Val |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 09-06-2011 16:42
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
A female was now added to the Maastricht Natural History Museum collection. Thanks.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 09-06-2011 17:33
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
And another one to my box. Thanks Geir !
Stephane. |
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