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I'm becoming confused with Polistes species. I read somewhere that P. dominulus and P. gallicus should be considered as the same species. Also, I have no idea if having green or black compound eyes occurs in the same species or it is a sign of gender. Here are three pictures I have classified as P. dominulus but I doubt it is right.

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... the second one, which is much smaller than the first
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Polistes gallicus and dominulus are two species. Above, you found 2 males, below a female. Photo ID of males is not really possible, below may be a female of dominulus (but I am not really sure). Males always have an all yellow face, females a black/yellow color pattern.

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Thank you, Christian. Thus, you confirm that all males of P. gallicus and P. dominulus have green eyes and yellow faces?
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All Polistes males have yellow faces, and green eyes is an effect of special light and may occur in many wasp species. So a species recognition is not possible for me. But gallicus and dominulus are the most probable species.

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I had a new, more detailed look to your wasps. The female is surely a Polistes gallicus (former foederatus). For males, gallicus also is the most probable possiblity, by form of head and clypeus. As I told, ID by photos is difficult, but i am quite sure.
If you agree, I will use these photos for your gallery.

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18.10.17 14:40
Thanks very much Paul- you know loads!

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Zoologicheskii Zhurnal: http://pleiades.o.
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Hello Can any1 give me a link to this journal pls? zool. J. Moscow Thx

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Sorry to bother- from a German book - desgl. can anyone give me the full name of the abbrev. and what it means?

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Older records (<1986) may refer to Phaonia meigeni Pont, 1986. Misidentification of earlier authors.

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He synonymizes Anthomyia lugubris with Aricia morio which is now Phaonia morio.

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