Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae ?

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 18:30
#1

Hi

Hope to get some help to ID this fly. Size approx. 5 mm. It was seen in Rønne, Bornholm, Denmark, 15/04/2014.

Regards
Belinda

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 18:32
#2

Back:

Posted by javanerkelens on 24-04-2014 20:46
#3

Anthomyiidae, probable Lasiomma species.

Johanna

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 21:07
#4

Thanks Johanna :)

but it also means it will be impossible to id from pictures?

Regards
Belinda

Posted by javanerkelens on 24-04-2014 21:19
#5

Now I doubt myself, because it seems to have an av seta on the midtibia, what should rule out Lasiomma....
Is it possible to make a crop of the midtibia or do you have other photos from this fly ..?

Johanna

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 21:27
#6

I got more pitures of the fly here is another - if you need more please ask :)

Posted by javanerkelens on 24-04-2014 21:41
#7

Please ad as many photos possible....
A bit confusing fly, because it seems to have indeed an av seta on one of the midtibia, but it has also 2 av on t3 and the proboscis seems to be black shining on this last photo......with these characters nothing fits till now.

Johanna

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 21:51
#8

Okay

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 21:59
#9

one more:

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 22:05
#10

Another:

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 22:14
#11

Another:

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 22:23
#12

Hope the photos helps

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 24-04-2014 22:24
#13

Last for now -

Posted by javanerkelens on 25-04-2014 21:36
#14

At first, ..thank you for putting so much effort into it, with all your photos!
Unfortunally some details are still not sharp or visible and to ID female Anthomyiidae is always very tricky and difficult, but.....the av seta on t2, seems to be a second ad seta and the rows of ad setae on t3 are successive long and short, in combination with a black shining proboscis, this could be an Alliopsis species.
I think I can't go further on species level, because, than I need very sharp photos, for the small characteristics.

Johanna

Edited by javanerkelens on 25-04-2014 21:37

Posted by Belinda Andersen on 26-04-2014 09:59
#15

Hi Johanna

Thanks a lot for your great effort to solve this fly. I know the Anthomyiidae is very difficult to determine from photos - so I hoped -as you can tell from my headline - it was a Muscidae.

So I'm very gratefull for your work :)

Best wishes
Belinda

Edited by Belinda Andersen on 26-04-2014 10:01