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 ID for ??? => Leptarthrus vitripennis
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| andreah |
Posted on 30-07-2016 11:44
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Member Location: Monterotondo (Rome) - Italy Posts: 52 Joined: 05.06.16 |
North Italy, Friuli, Cimolais 07/30/2016 H:800 masl Trigonomiminae ??? Thanks for ID andrea andreah attached the following image:  [137.91Kb] Edited by andreah on 30-07-2016 20:50 |
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| andreah |
Posted on 30-07-2016 11:44
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Member Location: Monterotondo (Rome) - Italy Posts: 52 Joined: 05.06.16 |
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| andreah |
Posted on 30-07-2016 11:45
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Member Location: Monterotondo (Rome) - Italy Posts: 52 Joined: 05.06.16 |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 30-07-2016 17:35
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
I am not familiar with Italian Asilidae but this one reminds me a lot of genus Leptarthrus (Brachyrhopalinae). If I am right in the ID of the genus, it should be Leptarthrus brevirostris, the only species cited in Italy. |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 30-07-2016 20:25
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Regarding the mystax and the metatarsi, and the short hair on the front half of the mesonotum i would go for a new species for Italy Leptarthrus vitripennis!
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| andreah |
Posted on 30-07-2016 20:29
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Member Location: Monterotondo (Rome) - Italy Posts: 52 Joined: 05.06.16 |
Thanks Piluca_Alvarez .... if as you say the genus is correct ... the morphology of the metatarsus of hind leg, the wing veins and the color of the wings tinged at base are reminiscent of L. vitripennis What do you think Edited by andreah on 30-07-2016 20:31 |
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| andreah |
Posted on 30-07-2016 20:47
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Member Location: Monterotondo (Rome) - Italy Posts: 52 Joined: 05.06.16 |
Many Thanks Reinoud... we overlaid |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 30-07-2016 20:53
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Just a slight remark about te metatarsus, only the male of L. brevirostris has this thin long hind metatarsus, and this is a female. It is true that the hind metatarsus of the female brevirostris is also somewhat longer and thinner than in vitripennis.
Edited by Quaedfliegh on 30-07-2016 20:55 Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| ValerioW |
Posted on 30-07-2016 21:15
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 Member Location: Padova - Italy Posts: 982 Joined: 01.06.12 |
This is reported in Switzerland and Austria, and Cimolais is just below Austria, and shares part of climate |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 30-07-2016 21:42
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
The species was also discovered in the south of Belgium this year.....not close to Italy, but still, it shows that it is more widespread than was known or that it is spreading. How many dipterists are working on Asilids in Italy?........ i wouldn't be surprised if there were way more species than is at present.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 03-08-2016 14:21
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
andreah wrote: Thanks Piluca_Alvarez .... if as you say the genus is correct ... the morphology of the metatarsus of hind leg, the wing veins and the color of the wings tinged at base are reminiscent of L. vitripennis What do you think Sorry for the late reply, Andreah  I didn't check features of the species Only IDed the genus and commented on the potential species it might be And Reinoud has spoken, so all is said now... and congratulations on the finding!!   And this proves once more that nothing can be given for granted in Asilidae!! All the best!! Piluca Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-08-2016 14:22 |
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