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Hippoboscidae. Ornithomya fringillina ID'd by Paul Beuk.
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 29-07-2012 09:20
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 3994 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Found laying on a window sill at Scatsta Airport. Any ideas on the ID of this member of the Hippoboscidae family? Wings and general looks seem to match Ornithomya in the Gallery. EDIT; ID'd by Paul as Ornithomya fringillina Roger Thomason attached the following image: ![]() [184.4Kb] Edited by Roger Thomason on 14-08-2012 22:51 |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 29-07-2012 11:55
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 1454 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Difficult to see the diagnostic characters. Looks like Ornithomya chloropus. How many scutellar bristles are present? O. chloropus should have six. In O. fringillina four scutellar bristles are present.
Jan Willem |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 29-07-2012 22:25
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 7316 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I agree It is very dark. Moreover, it is supposed the only species in Scotland Theo |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 30-07-2012 09:15
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 3994 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Thanks for the info Jan Willem & Theo Are these the bristles you mentioned JW? 4 centrally placed ones showing. I don't know if any are broken off or not. ![]() Found this link about O. fringillina being studied on Fair Isle here in Shetland in 1954. http://www.jstor....1121373917 Regards Roger Roger Thomason attached the following image: ![]() [76.64Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 01-08-2012 14:15
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 11809 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Can you take a ventral shot of the head for final ID?
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on www.diptera.info |
| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 02-08-2012 00:01
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 3994 Joined: 17.07.08 |
I can send it to you if you want Paul... Pigeon Post again? (Should make it feel almost at home).
Roger Thomason attached the following image: ![]() [138.91Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 03-08-2012 09:58
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 11809 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Ornithomya fringillina on account of the pale genae.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on www.diptera.info |
| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 11-08-2012 12:50
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 3994 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Thanks Paul. I bumped into another one a couple of days ago, just outside of Lerwick. It was sitting just above a dead seagull ![]() Seems to be slightly different shape to the first one..different sex? If so, which is which? Regards Roger BTW..Anyone who collects these things is welcome to have them
Roger Thomason attached the following image: ![]() [179.75Kb] Edited by Roger Thomason on 11-08-2012 12:54 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 13-08-2012 11:44
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 11809 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Same species and I'd be happy to take them off your hands.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on www.diptera.info |
| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 14-08-2012 22:46
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 3994 Joined: 17.07.08 |
They are presently swimming (very badly) in a vial of Triple Distilled Premium Vodka, (hope they/you don't mind),inside a padded envelope addressed to the Museum in Maastricht... Will mail it tomorrow.I take it you are still "slumming it" there? ![]() Regards... Roger |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 15-08-2012 09:56
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 11809 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I am still there...
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(Should make it feel almost at home).


...what you prefer, we can discus this, during some good wine, cheese and many new pinned flies!